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Technical 59a flathead gen bracket issues with 3x2 intake

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by 64Pony, Jul 1, 2024.

  1. 64Pony
    Joined: Oct 18, 2019
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    64Pony

    The upper hose wants to occupy the same space as the generator and belt. I’m using the edelbrock offset bracket and have tried different belt sizes but no luck. I can’t be the first to run into this issue, looking for some guidance on it was solved. I plan to keep the 3x2 on btw.

    41 ford pickup

    I’m thinking:

    1. butcher up the upper pipe to go around the generator and belt. (Kinda ugly)
    2. Alter the offset bracket to lower and rotate the generator/alt down (might run into belt slippage on the water pump.)
    3. The correct answer you all have from experience :)

    thanks in advance
     

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  2. continentaljohn
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    How about running a idler pulley
     
  3. banjorear
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    This. Make an idler from an old Ford generator and get it as high up on the intake's front mount as possible. Raise the generator on the mount as high as possible. Get appropriate length belt and I'd think it'll clear.
     
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  4. alchemy
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    You need the head bracket that mounts the generator at 45 to the crank, not the partial tilt one you have. Should tilt it out of the way of the hose. But you might run into some interference with the plug wires and those stock tubes.
     
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  5. banjorear
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    I forgot about the other type of mount that Alchemy mentioned. It looks like you'll need that and an idler pulley up front to get the belt up
     
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  6. alanp561
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  7. I don't think any of the above "fixes" are going to fix your issue - as it all comes down to where your radiator tubes are located. The engine sits pretty high in the chassis and the top radiator tank is pretty low. No matter what you do, I think the belt is going to want to interfere with your radiator hose/tube location.

    Even if you swing the generator outward, I believe the belt is going to want to hit. You might be able to swing it outward with a different head-mount bracket and then make a custom idler to bring the belt under the radiator tube - that might be the only way to get it all to fit without making major changes.
     
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  8. FiveNdime
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    If your good at fabrication, you could make a bracket to suit your needs that would offset the gen on more of a horizontal plane. Put some different length studs in for said bracket. I would just start from scratch with a custom bracket but that's me, I like making things. You're still going to need to clear the tube with the belt going back to the driver's side water pump.

    One other possible option is to work something in using double groove pulleys. I did that on one side of mine to run the mechanical fan. I like the bracket idea though for the generator, still may have to use an idler depending on how close the belt gets to the distributor.
     
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  9. NealinCA
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    Looks like the bracket Alchemy suggested will work (2 of these are driver's side, but same idea)

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  10. alchemy
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    But do note you have to get the plug wires tighter to the block on the side opposite the generator.
     
  11. 64Pony
    Joined: Oct 18, 2019
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    I was messing around with it a little more. If I slightly tilt the alternator, it clears the pipe and if add an idler with a custom bracket like mentioned to drop the belt below the hose, that should be the ticket. I can use the original mount location on the intake to mount the idler.

    Taking a hammer to clearance that pipe is appealing too. haha

    That other bracket is interesting, never seen one like that. Would that work for the style generator I have though? It has the built in mount.
     

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  12. alchemy
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    Your Powergen has a replica of a ‘48 mount, but it should have the same mounting surface as the real ‘40 generators in Neal’s photos.
     
  13. Lose the acorn caps on the nuts under the generalternator. That will allow you to get it closer to the head, which will in turn lower the belt. Might be enough, might not be, but worth trying.
     
  14. alanp561
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    Any chance of getting a closeup of your fan? I'm assuming that you've run it off of the crank pulley. And while you're at it, try hitting the "Full Image" button when you post pictures. Just a suggestion.
     

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