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6 volt generator/12 volt generator

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by harley jim, Oct 7, 2013.

  1. I need some help! I am collecting parts to convert my 50 ford to 12 volt. On the generator I have read that I can replace the 6 volt fields with 12 volt and keep the 6 volt armature and this is all that is required to be done to the generator.I am planning right now to use an electronic regulator with it.

    I know that there are a lot more things that will need to be done and I welcome your comments. Thanks, Jim
     
  2. woodypecker
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    Easy way is to use housing from 56 to 64 ford with the rest of your parts and drill locator hole. Or you can remove field coils from 56 up generator and install in your generator.
     
  3. dsiddons
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    Gen doesn't know the difference between 6 and 12 volt. It will make enough to run 12 volts. Get a 12volt voltage regulator and giddy up


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  4. model.A.keith
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  5. Mike51Merc
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    Well, not exactly. While a 6V generator can output 12V, it needs to spin awfully fast to do so.

    Do the conversion, or get an alternator.
     
  6. e1956v
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    I agree.
    6 volt field coils will not always close the points on a 12v regulator.
    Do the conversion. You can use the 6 volt armature but it won't charge as good at idle as it will if you use a 12 volt armature.

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  7. dsiddons
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    I'm running a stock gen with a voltage reg. now. Works Lika top. Plus it looks right. Don't understand it has to spin faster? I haven't done anything different than stock setup. ?


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  8. dsiddons
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    Either way a one wire Alt is Gay on a flathead! Do what ya gotta do to run your Gen. Them big old hoss of parts are what is so cool about them. Not that being Gay is anything wrong. To be politically correct


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  9. Mike51Merc
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    Um, we're talking about a generator designed to handle 6 volt output being used to put out 12 volts.

    If it didn't matter, then the engineers really wasted a lot of time and money by changing them, didn't they?
     
  10. dsiddons
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    Generators didn't generate volts. They generated amps. Not saying a alt wouldn't be a better product. It would. May have to change the brushes and tend to the generator and such. If its a problem then drop in a small block with electronic ignition and go. Thought traditional hot rodding was about the experience? That stock gen doesn't know 6 or 12 volts. It puts out what it puts out and you can regulate it down wind. Sorry to cause any problems just hate to see cool parts eliminated for something that's just convenient. We can talk about how I hate electric fuel pumps to. Mine is stock and works Lika champ. Flatheads with electric fuel pumps and Toyota alternators are Gay!


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  11. Mike51Merc
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    The suggestion to the OP was to either get a later 12V Ford generator or to swap in 12V field coils from a later generator. If he did that it would look exactly the same. You're asserting that there's no such thing as a 12V Ford generator, because apparently "they're all the same" to you.

    Current and voltage aren't mutually exclusive, generators don't just generate current, they generate voltage. The faster it spins, the higher the voltage. The current (capacity) is determined by the size of the field coils.
     
  12. dsiddons
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    well at idle it will generate about 13 volts or so and at highway speed about 18 so what the problem with using a stock ford so called 6volt gen?
     
  13. dsiddons
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    I dont care really just trying to help the guy out. No reason for a alt or a electric fuel pump. None what so ever. But if you have ta sell me your gen. I like old ford stuff
     
  14. I do appreciate all the discussion on my Generator. I am listening and learning but part of my problem is that I cant get the stock fuel pump to keep up with the motor. I am new to owning a flathead although I have been around them forever, I was raised on a strict Chevy diet (my dad)and don't have them figured out yet. I want to keep the car as stock as I can. I have changed the fuel pump out a couple of times and tried all of the quick fixes that the local flathead guys have suggested to no avail. The car will run out of gas when I go up steep grades or on hot days when I run 50 mph for say 10 minutes or so. I had just decided that with that problem and the need to put some better lights on the car that 12 volts would be the best solution. Thanks,Jim
     
  15. dsiddons
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    May have a kink in the fuel line or something. Anyway I would try and see if you can get 12 volt charge with a regulator on the firewall and then go from there. A regulator is about 15$ get one for a 57' T bird for example. I had one one wire alt on a flathead before I had all kinds of trouble. Maybe because I had the wrong one. Don't know. Mike is very knowledge and can help you beyond my scenario. Old guy down the road has a flathead truck that's running 12volt with stock gen. I will ask him what he did also.


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