Projects '62 Ford Unibody LSR Truck

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So tell us Timmy, did the SBC help it hook up any better in top gear? Sounds great!!

 

Cool Tim and she sounded great, espically the shifts!!

Congrats......Carl

 

Not much, if you go back and listen to the engine towards the end of the run you can hear it breaking loose. the thing that would realy help is to get on the coarse before all the "high power" cars tear it up. I will more than likely add more weight for next season, Norris Anderson told me he runs 1200 lbs and another 300 mph guy told me he put 1900 lbs in his. I don't think I will add quite so much but maybe another 200.

 

Talk with Rocky, he knows how to put two SBCs together.

 

Great job Tim. The truck ran and sounded awsome..CONRATS !

 

I noticed the engine revving in 4th too... wondered if you were losing traction.

I can't even imagine running 120 mph and losing traction. At the end of the run I'd remove my seatbelt and slide right out of the cab and probably mutter something intelligent like... "Underwear, please."

 

Got your message, was busy with the kid. Pics got to the right person who turned out being in Gerrys club after all! Thanks.

 

why not add a some kind of wing if the rules allow it that way ur getting down force more so then adding weight that u have to get up to speed every 100 pounds u take off a drag car u gain a tenth in a 1/4 so the same will apply here more weight will take longer to get up to speed and longger to slow down

it is just a idea

 

If it weren't for that pesky rule book

 

Yeah Todd, everyone should be required to read the book before commenting. And dragrace concepts do not apply to LSR!

 

The guy was just trying to help. Sometimes someone with no pre-conceived notion will get us thinking outside the box and benefit everyone.

You're welcome to fire away ideas anytime I ask for advice cowboy.

 

Now that I have been involved in running a car/truck and building my own I see things differently. Statements like his get tossed about just like "all I wanna do is run 200 so I can get a red hat" It is much more involved and different than the average man on the street thinks. I would recomendo searching this site for all the Bonneville info a guy can find and then registering on www.landracing.com and reading more.............followed by a trip next spring or summer to the lakes or Bonneville in August.

 

Here is a good weight discussion.

http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,7947.0.html

And an excellent one on aero downforce vs. weight

http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,9787.0.html

 

Great vid Tim! Makes regret I had to miss the meet. You ran on the right of the course. Did the big HP guys chew up the left? It looked a bit rough about a mile out but nothing out of the ordinary. Congrats on a good run.

 

What do you plan on using for weight Tim? Water, metal shot,charlies plates,another block, etc.? Would there be any benefit to the location of the weight being further back vs closer to the rear axle?

 

I don't disagree at all, just sayin' no reason to bust someone's balls for trying tp help. My LSR expertise comes from spectating at Bonneville twice and watching this thread. I have zero experience compared to others on this board but I know some of the most ingenious ideas can come from those who haven't "been there done that."

 

Trust me, if I was ball busting you would know it. Just agreeing witha very smart comment by Todd. Read some of those links with comments by some VERY experienced veterans. There is a lot to learn after crossing the spectator ropes, trust me I am learning it all right now! Well at least over the next decade or three...........................

 

There's an old saying I heard when I was racing in Ireland. "Anyone can go fast leaning on the fence." Bonneville is a cruel mistress. She tantalizes you by showing you how fast cars and bikes can go and you think its easy. So you go out there and she kicks you in the nuts. Going fast regardless of your machines capacity takes a lot of hard work. Do you think Tim goes as fast as he does just by showing up? Theres a lot of hard work and experience in his truck.

 

Lets see Tim you can get rid of the Chev in the bed and replace it with a another Y-Block only this time make it a runner and tie it into the rear end then put your tonnou over it and hide from the tech guys.................

 

To answer a question from way back, more weight will come from steel plate. That is what was planed from the beginning, the block was just a stop gap messure.

I will say that I am open to most suggestions but the ones I get from the expierianced LSR guys I listen to! As for weight and aero, it is a LOT different than drag racing. Traction is a different story too. One reason it is a little tougher to "Hook up" is the fact that I run an open rear end. There is both ways of thinking in land speed racing and I've heard both arguments but a locked rear is more likely to spin you at high speed. The weight is to keep you planted and although the 1/4 times may not be quick once it's moving, well some guy said a long time ago "an object set in motion tends to stay something bla bla bla".

I was talking to Norris Anderson durring Speed Week and he told me that he uses 1200 lbs in the back of his truck, he runs 220 in his '49 Stude pickup.

Steel plate bolted to the frame.



Listen to everything but listen most to the people who have been there.

 

That there looks like one hell of a field truck...hehehe

 

Salt field my friend!

 

Oh Go Pound Salt!..lol!!!

 

That Stude is one badass truck! we had a good ballast discussion in the LSR chat this week, LOW is the consensus, mount it LOW.

 

That is the plan man!

 

Great work - great post. Loved the video, music to my ears. Keep up the good work!

 

as for my idea of a wing instead of weight is down force is created from the air being redericted not dragging a bunch of weight down the track. no im not a LSR or a DRAG RACER it was nothing more then a idea that im sure he has already thought about seeing his tag line in all his posts. but if u can get 500 lbs of down force by adding a 3 lb wing would make more sence to me then adding a 500lb weight. im not saying to try to get all the weight with areo or weight. but if rules allow you to do it why not try a combo of things. i have seen wings on LSR so i know that saying it was not off topic. the thing with all types of motorsports is there are all diff ways to get to the end resault witch is being number one. if there was a book that said how to get to 200 mph it wouldnt be much fun would it? as for me what i do for motorsports hp aero weight dont matter. so i have to think outside of the box within the rules and get creative.

 

Hey, I am learning from the salt vets as is Tim. For the most part it has been proven that weight is free downforce where wings, tunnels etc add aero drag. Folks far smarter than us have figured this out. If you want to talk wings (which by the way are ILLEGALE in Tims Prod. class, hence Todds comment) come on over to my lakester thread.

http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=545509&highlight=spirit

We can discuss wings, foils, vortex generators, tunnels, diffusers and riblet tape and keep Tims thread clean of stuff that does not apply to Production classes.

 

Did I hear rumors of a "new" project Tim? You aren't going to get rid of Jake or Elwood are you?