Projects '64 Dodge A/FX - Returning a Gladiator to its former Glory

This will be a great build to follow!

 

Yeah man that is! I cleaned them up. I have new hoses for it too. Those parts have been p***ed around a little. Our friend that bought the parts from you was forced to get rid of the car they were suppose to go on. In fact the motor we are using as mock-up was the motor he was going to build.

 

That's good to know.

Also, here's my understanding of the difference between S/S and A/FX.

S/S was required to run factory carburetors and a factory intake. No suspension modifications were allowed as far as ride height.

A/FX could run any induction setup. Multiple carbs or injection. Supercharged was a different cl***. S/FX?
A/FX also allows for suspension modification and some body modifications. Hood wasn't even required.

Since the engine has been set back in the car about 8", I'm not sure if that would put it in a different cl*** from A/FX. Would that change it to A/XS?

If somebody is an expert on this stuff, straighten me out if I'm wrong. One of my pet peeves is a car with the wrong cl*** painted on the side. Like a fenderless model a with A/G written on it... don't they understand that's an altered?

 

Good to see they are being used on something I can wrap my head around!Gotta love the early B body Mopars.

 

Nice build, I am very interested in finding out what thoese valve covers are worth!

 

I'll follow this thread since I'm building a 64 plymouth that has the rear axle moved forward 4 inches and was wondering what cl*** it would run in. i thought A/FX also.

 

do you wanna sell the a100 seats?
i need a set if your keen

 

as I understand, the stack height differed between manual and automatic transmission cars. Should be easy research to get it right.

 

Butch Leal ran short stacks with a manual trans and Landy ran tall stacks with his push ****on auto, the tall stacks are supposed to help the torque curve for the auto.

 

Ryan I am not positive but the main reason the first altered wheelbase cars were built, Landy's and the Ramchargers was because in A/FX and S/S you could not alter the firewall so they moved the wheels instead. I would just call the car a match racer or match bash car they didn't care about the rules so much.

 

We are going to run tall stacks on it. Since it is a drag star log manifold with 6 carbs and not injection, we are concerned about the gas being ****ed out of the carbs with being exposed with short bells. If we put long stacks on it, it should prevent this from happening, since the fuel level will be farther away from the opening. Scoops would eliminate the problem too, because they would create a ram air effect.

 

Btt

 

What a cool build, you should think about closing that hole in the hood with some colored plexigl***, then cut your hole for the stacks. That big of a hole might try and lift the hood.

 

Got a tach yesterday for the Car. It was a HAMB donation to the cause

Thanks Zig Zag Wanderer.

I'll post pictures when I get a chance.

 

Nice man! Good Luck!

 

I like it a lot. That black and red is killer. Good luck.

 

switch panel shifter being used do you know of any 1200/16 racemasters

 

Anymore progress on the car?

 

I am kinda surprised no one noticed the valve covers are 4 bolt and not 6 bolt. The 4 bolt would be correct for 63 and in 64 they went to 6 bolt. I would bet they were made in the late 50's to early 60's. Don't forget to cut down the water pump housing when using the elephant ear motor mounts.

Falfasnightmare; if you want to go real fast, trade it for a tubbed camaro and open your Jegs catalog?

That is the dumbest thing i have ever heard, chevys are no match for the mighty Mopar!!

 

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Just a thought, but you might also want
to experiment a bit with the 'Drag Star'
intake by raising the carb height with some
homemade spacers or 'carb risers' welded
up from some steel or aluminum tubing
- (preferably oval tubing, if you can find
it - or make some by partially squashing
some round tubing in a vice or a press.)
Just for example - instead of running say,
twelve-inch tall velocity stacks on the carb
mouths (if that was the overall height you
wanted) - compromise by raising the carbs
up six-inches and then using six-inch tall
velocity stacks instead. Raising the carbs
would increase the plenum volume *below
the throttle plates* which should have the
effect of increasing mid-range torque and
top end-horsepower. As it is, with four of
the six carbs placed almost directly over
the intake ports, combined with very short
runners and the otherwise also very small
internal plenum volume of the Drag-Star
intake, it's actually very close to being an
I.R.(ie- "isolated runner")-type intake.
Generally, true I.R intakes, because they
have no common plenum at all, require
carburetors with two to three times the
airflow capacity of a conventional
plenum-type intake manifold for a given
rpm-range and horsepower level. Even
for plenum-type intakes, a rule of thumb
is, the greater the plenum volume, the
smaller the carb air-flow capacity need
be, for a given rpm level and horsepower
output and vice versa. I can very easily
see a healthy 440 with six relatively small
94-style 2-bbls. on an intake with very
short runners and very little plenum volume
like this, peaking and and then running out
of breath at about - or perhapsd even below
-5000 rpm. Since you can't drastically increase
the air-flow capacity of the 94-style carbs to
compensate for the intake design, you could,
by experimenting with varying the mounting
heights of the carbs - and thus increasing the
runner lengths and plenum volume, - 'tune'
the intake and match the carbs airflow
capacity to suit the cam and the rpm-level
where the engine will have it's torque and
horsepower peaks.

Mart3406
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Man, gotta love those early B body MoPars. Especially 64 Dodges.

That thing looks killer, I really dig the whole early 60's S/S, A/FX scene, really looking forward to this build.


Gomez

 

Air flow is airflow...don't think it really matters which side of the carburetors the length is, from previous experience the long stacks should do the job fine.

 

Just a quick update on the car we just got the carbs back and they look great also I just got a magneto for it too!! I will try to post pics soon! Thanks for posting.

 

For those of you wonder who this rigermortous character is, he is the owner of the car.

Welcome back Andy, you remember how to use the HAMB

 

And yes, we now have the carbs back from rebuild and also picked up a ronco vertex mag for it.

 

I pointed that out to him when I checked out his project in person a few months ago.

You missed Falfasnightmare's sarcasm

 

Love them old mopars, how is it coming, here is mine...what do ya think?

 

Engine set-back and fibergl*** components would do it. Look a Color Me Gone...Same thing....

 

The very early B Blocks had 4 bolt valve covers, the 413 did not. I'm talking 1958 350 cubic inch and early 59-60 361 and high block 383 motors. They leaked out of the corners is why the two corner bolts were added in 1961-62, or thereabouts. Have to be really old...I've been fooling with these cars for a long time and I've never seen any like 'em!!

 

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