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65 Plym Belevdere Afx "temptation"

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by J.P.'S TOYZ, Feb 19, 2008.

  1. bobhoneybrook
    Joined: Jan 6, 2008
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    Hey waydar I am hanging for more of your story, where are you? I need a fix!
     
  2. Charlie 427
    Joined: May 1, 2008
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    Great stories Wayne. They bring back a lot of great memories for guys like me. I think my friend Ron Bell down in Texas might have some vintage shots of your car. Best regards to you, the cats and parrotts. Charlie Morris
     
  3. femadman
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    Yea,Ron my friend too,and yes he does.Think I posted then on the Stock Super stock 59/66 thread,but here tis
    [​IMG]
     
  4. waydar
    Joined: May 23, 2008
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    Temptation Con't.

    Thanks for the picx...I was beginning to wonder if anyone was still reading this thread. Temptation wheelbase was shortened by 20" to 92" The rear axle was moved 28" forward and the front wheels were relocated 8" forward; thus the wheelbase change was 20". That modification provided plenty of weight transfer. Don Hardyand Kelly Chadwick installed the tube front axle with '48 Ford spindles, connected together with the 63 Corvair steering box. This axle was held on by 4-leaf springs on each side. We saved about 125 pounds by doing the change. We put Cure Ride 90/10 front shocks to snub the front end travel. More weight savings was the removal of the front brake assembly. That was another 70 pounds removed. On the back we used Plymouth heavy duty rear brakes along with a 16' Deist ringslot chute on the deck to do the stopping.. We used Goodyear rubber and had Cragar for the 4 wheels. Doug's Headers furnished the headers, we used Pennzoil to lubricate and a Joe Hunt Mag to fire Champion plugs.


    The Hemi 426 cu in engine remained at the 426 size but I did have the crank hard chromed by C-T and we used Forgedtrue rings. Howard Jerome at Clay Smith Cams did a Probe No. 1 camshaft using their pushrods and Schiefer rollers to open the 2.20 exhaust and the 1.89 intake valves. Kenyon Porting Service of Detroit brought the heads up to competition specs. The compression was 12.5-1. We mostly ran a 30% nitro mixture using Hilborn injectors. I kept the nitro dose low to help on engine life as we didn't have the big bucks factory guys standing there with parts if we broke. I tried to help on the drivers end by using the lights as close to a red light as I could get. Looking back, I never redlighted, but did have several hole shots. I had a deep pan using a Milodon oil pickup for keeping the oil flowing and I used STP.

    Roger Lindamood of 'Color Me Gone' fame built my Torqueflight transmissions with a high stall speed torque converter....connected to a 4.30 gear in the rear end. I never had any trouble with the transmission breaking, but I did have a welded nut break on the converter and sprayed oil everywhere. I thought I was on fire as smoke filled the car, when I stopped I saw what had happened with the oil all over the car and still dripping off the bottom. We towed back and dropped the tranny and changed the converter between heats and was ready for the next round. This happened at Sanford Maine and I think we had a match with Bruce Larson in the USA Chevy. So long ago things are fuzzy.

    Before we left Calif for other parts of the country, everyone was starting to use Hydrozine or were putting blowers on their motors. As you old times know several of the drivers had some bad stuff happened using the Hydrozine...I decided to pass and not run that fuel but decided to install a blower. We bought a really nice Weiands puffer and all the trimings to go with it from C-T Automotive. Well we bought nearly everything. Only thing missing was the Gilmer belt drive pulley. We just couldn't find one anyplace. Everyone we asked were sold out and no one knew when they would be available. Without a drive pulley we were dead in the dirt, but I was lucky and had all the money returned for all the equipment bought without any hassle. So by this turn of luck we never went the blower route and stayed with just the injectors.

    More tidbits next time as the tale continues..

    Take care all y'all
     
  5. hog mtn dave
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    Thanks. I think there are a lot of readers like me that check back for updates to the saga daily.
     
  6. htweelz
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    from Maryland

    This really is an incredible story and like someone else said it would make a great book or movie. Keep it coming!

    My question is what happened to the guy that started this thread? Did he ever find out if it is the real car?
     
  7. bobhoneybrook
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    Keep up the good work Waydar, I love the stories of bucks down racers who took on the big dollar guys. It gives all of us an insite to what really went on and how hard and rewarding life on the road as a racer was. I would have changed places with you for a season worth of thrills, it would have been worth a life time of memories.
    Please tell us more, dont leave anything out.
     
  8. zapp69
    Joined: Sep 30, 2007
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    Awesome stories, thanks for sharing
    Ill be back for more.

    Has anyone confirmed if the car "J.P's Toys" has is Temptation or not
     
  9. bobhoneybrook
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    Hey waydar, it is almost ten days since you last checked in, where are you? I hope everything is OK with you.
     
  10. 1badnov
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    from South Bay

    These stories are incredible. I want more! It's like the book Match Race Madness. by Grady Byrant, once I started reading it I just couldn't put it down. Thank you for doing it, Then & Now...
     
  11. hotrodpodo
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    Waydar, where are you?? We need more.:confused:
     
  12. Petejoe
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    from Zoar, Ohio

    I swear how did I miss this thread.
    Absolutely fabulous stories!
    Thanks for sharing Wadar !!
    JP TOYZ.....
    do you have any picture of the car now?
    those pictures you posted look like ones from the day.
     
  13. oldandkrusty
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    Holy Crap, how the hell did I miss this thread??? Man, what history Wayne has - and he's sharing it all with us. This is the BEST thread I've come across (although really late in the game) for some time. More, more Wayne, please - pretty please!!!
     
  14. KING CHASSIS
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    Waydar..... off the radar? We need more!!!! Come in Waydar!!
     
  15. waydar
    Joined: May 23, 2008
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    Hey All Y'all....well I'm glad some missed me these past few days. I had what might be called a happening. Last week I was busy removing our kitchen sink to install a new one. The next morning I get up and dress, go into the kitchen and ask my wife what happened to the sink. She told me I took it out yesterday. I had no memory of anything that happeded on Sunday. Going to Lowes and Home Depot, buying supplies, buying a faucet, nothing...it was just not there. GONE!!!!

    I guess she thought I was trying to pull a fast one on her but it was indeed the truth. So....she loads me into the car and off to the hospital we go. She said I asked her at least 6 times where we were going and she told me every time. I couldn't remember her telling me anything.

    We got to the ER and the clerk asked me as she filled out all the paperwork they have to have...what month is this? My wife said I looked at her and told her I didn't use months. I suppose that was a red flag moment, huh? They moved me to a room in the ER and doctors started testing to see what was wrong. After awhile one came in and said it looked like I had Transient Global Amnesia. He said it could last from a few minutes to 24 hours or more. He said I would probably never have it happen again. In over 20 years of his practice he only saw one case that had it again.

    After about 8 hours in the ER they moved me to a room for 5 days running all kinds of tests. I wore a heart monitor 24/7 for the duration. Had IV's and got antibiotics. They didn't find anything out of order, so I'm home now and feel great, have the Sunday memory back and remember all that happened. Just scary for awhile.

    If you want to read about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transient_global_amnesia or just type Transient Global Amnesia into Google. Lots to read there.

    I will try to get back to writing soon.

    waydar
     
  16. Roadsters.com
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    Thanks for sharing all this with us, Wayne. It's really appreciated.

    And in case you've forgotten what it means, WBD is an acronym for Wife-Beater Deluxe.

    Dave
    http://www.roadsters.com/
     
  17. zapp69
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    Good to hear your on the mend, we love hearing your stories, but no hurry.

    Did she get someone else to finish the sink, maybe it was a sub-concious ploy to get out of your Chores.
     
  18. HevvyHemi
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    from NJ

    Great stuff! Wayne, did you ever race at Island Dragway in New Jersey?
     
  19. bobhoneybrook
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    Thank God you are back Wayne I was starting to worry and I am missing your stories. I hope all goes well for you. How has your wife coped without a sink?
     
  20. 1badnov
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    Good to here that everything is ok. With that said. We need more:D



    Please!
     
  21. FEDER
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    Cant believe I missed this thread also! I was gettin ready to leave, had My truck warmin up and the Wife yells IF YOUR NOT LEAVIN, TURN THE TRUCK OFF!! Got so inthused on this thread I totally forgot.
    Hey the Guy that started this thread JPs Toyz Is He the Guy who races JPz Jelly Belly
    A/Gas Anglia?
    Wayne thanks ever so much I LOVE THIS STUFF FEDER
     
  22. J.P.'S TOYZ
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    Yes that's me Jim Pace . Waydar glad your back on track with us.
     
  23. FEDER
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    Welcome to the HAMB, Jim !!! could ya do an intro and post some pics of Your car.
    I have been going to the CHRR for 12 yrs now. Watchin You drive the Anglia gives Me goosebumps! The burnouts are AWSOME. And ofcoarse the free jellybeans are cool too.
    Never missed a pass everytime I went. FEDER
     
  24. trenchwarfare
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    Great stories. Keep 'em coming.
     
  25. J.P.'S TOYZ
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    Hi, Jim Pace here from Fairfield, Ca home of the greatest Jelly Belly's
    and burnouts. J.P'S Toyz was created by me 12 years ago. As a A- Gas Nostalgia Anglia. Been doing car shows and more car projects lately, no time for racing. Pictures to follow , have a good 4th of July

    JP
     
  26. J.P.'S TOYZ
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    hey waydar where are you???????????
     
  27. J.P.'S TOYZ
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  28. Just joined this thread late myself and now I'm hanging on every word. Wanted to rate it at 6 stars but the scale only goes up to five. But then I got kind of a soft spot for these '62 to '65 Mopars, and for some great story tellin'!

    Waiting for the next chapter....
     
  29. bobhoneybrook
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    Hey waydar is everything OK, where are you? Please let us know you are all right.
     

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