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6v pos ground alternator wiring.

Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by Matt Dudley, Apr 26, 2025.

  1. Matt Dudley
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    I bought a 6v pos ground alternator from the Brillman company for my ‘51 Plymouth. All I have to do is use an 8ga wire from the alternator to the battery terminal on the voltage regulator and disconnect the field and armature terminals right?
     
  2. Johnny Gee
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    Why not move armature wire at regulator to battery at regulator (as a junction) (use other end of original armature wire at alternator)? then delete field wire.
     
  3. squirrel
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    probably because the original wires are way too small?
     
  4. Matt Dudley
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    I never really thought about doing that. It just might work. Not sure what gauge the wire it is but if it’s at least 8 gauge it should.
     
  5. Johnny Gee
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    Ya, I based it on just a conversion vs an output upgrade.

    So what amp alternator did you buy?
     
  6. squirrel
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    I'm ***uming that he came up with the 8 gauge wire size based on the alternator installation instructions? :)

    but it sounds about right, and I'd be surprised if the original is thicker than #12
     
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  8. Matt Dudley
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    Brillman listed it as 40A. I specifically got this one because I didn’t want to over power the original ammeter. All other alts are 60A. The original voltage regulator has a max of 47A as that is printed on it.

    An old Packard electric diagram shows between 8-10ga so 8 on side of caution
     
  9. Johnny Gee
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    Based on your opening question. What gauge wire is the cars factory battery wire from the regulator to the battery?
     
  10. Matt Dudley
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    It might be 10g. I’m not sure. Hard to tell since it’s cloth covered
     
  11. Johnny Gee
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    A new #8 down to a #10 doesn’t make sense to me. If you really want a #8 wire. Send it directly to the battery vs to the regulator.
     
  12. Matt Dudley
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    That was an idea I had. The only draw back is it won’t show a charge on the ammeter, only discharge. I could run a wire to the battery terminal and a wire to the battery itself which I think would shunt the current, halving the amperage that the ammeter would see. Would still show charge or discharge just not peg the needle
     
  13. Johnny Gee
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    @ only a 40 amp alternator if it was mine. I’d do it the easy way as I mentioned in the beginning. Then the charging circuit pretty much is working as designed back in the day.

    But I do like the idea of not sending all the charge thru the amp gauge also.
     
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  14. Matt Dudley
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    I looked at it and for sure it can most likely be used if it’s long enough for the alternator. Looks like 8-10ga to me. The caveat is the ignition wire and another is paired with it which would end up too short if I got it to reach the alternator. Not a big deal making them longer. Probably run a 12ga to the battery. It will reduce the current off the ammeter and the load off of the wire as well
     
  15. wheeltramp brian
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    I got the same alternator for my 55 Plymouth and ran 8 gauge to the regulator battery post. And it has been working great for a while. Then I Figured out what parts to use to convert a junk 12 V 1 wire to a 6 V. So now I have a backup for a 10th of the money.
     
  16. Matt Dudley
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    Just had a chance to try to get the alternator on. Got burned on the bracket. Fits the engine bracket but does not line up the alternator correctly. Not sure if I should mess with trying to cut the bracket up to make it work or just get the generator working. I can take a chance and take it to the local electric motor place. They aren’t really good with generators in my experience but they do work on them.
     

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