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72 caddy hearse qjet problems

Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by Figgles, Sep 14, 2024.

  1. Figgles
    Joined: Sep 14, 2024
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    Figgles

    I can post a link to a video of the engine if it helps.

    1972 Cadillac Superior he****. 472ci with Rochester qjet.

    Rebuilt the carb last year, new cap, rotor, plugs, wires. Car starts ok and runs fine but if you give it gas in gear, it quits after a sec.

    Vacuum valves for choke and distributor are good. Idle vacuum is 17-20. I think this is a fuel issue rather than anything else.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. BJR
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    Look down the carb, and move the throttle linkage. You should see the accelerator pump squirt fuel from the discharge nossils. If no fuel you found the problem.
     
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  3. ClayMart
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    When you rebuilt the carb did you alter the spring tension of the secondary air valve?
     
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  4. Doublepumper
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    Or... possibly the vac. advance is connected to manifold vacuum when a ported source would be better..? Ported vacuum would help prevent a loss of vac. signal to the vacuum advance, when the car is in gear and you first start to open the throttle.
     
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  5. Mr48chev
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    The air valve opening up too quick could be an issue or if those few seconds get you half way across an intersection and it falls on it's face and after you let up for a few seconds it will go again you could have a fuel delivery restriction.
     
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  6. Moriarity
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    moved to the off topic forum
     
  7. SS327
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    SS327

    You did put the checkball back in for the accelerator pump?
     
  8. Pav8427
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    The local FLAPS carb kits include accelerater pumps that are supposed to be OK in this new fuel we have. Lots of times it only takes a short while for the pumps to swell up and not work any more.
    Pull the air cleaner and with it NOT running give the trottle a couple pulls while looking down the top of carb. Should have good strong squirts of gas from the acc pump.
     
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  9. TA DAD
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    Does it still have points ?
     
  10. bill gruendeman
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    Is it better warmed up or same as cold start? Choke to lean? Or accelerater pump like the others have said.
     
  11. Figgles
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    Figgles

    Accelerator pump is working.
     
  12. Figgles
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    Figgles

    No.
     
  13. Figgles
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    Figgles

    I checked the vacuum advance, it is connected to where it should be according to the service manual.
     
  14. Figgles
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    Figgles

    This is kind of what I was thinking. I might add an inline fuel filter instead of the carb one.
     
  15. Figgles
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    Figgles

    Yes.
     
  16. Figgles
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    Figgles

    It does.
     
  17. Figgles
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    Figgles

    It does not. I had purchased points but when I went to replace them, I discovered that it had an electronic ignition.
     
  18. Figgles
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    Figgles

    Doesn't seem to matter. Choke is the old thermostat type with the coil spring on the intake. It functions as intended.
     
  19. Figgles
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    Figgles

    Ok thank you first of all for all of the responses. I rebuilt the carb and it seems a bit better, but still acts up after a bit. I'm going to try replacing the ignition coil and see if that helps. The condenser is new, but I might as well replace that too.
     
  20. BJR
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    Why you have a condenser with electronic ignition?
     
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  21. Figgles
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    Figgles

    Well...I'm not sure. It was on there and connected so I guess I figured it needed it? Kinda dumb of me...
     
  22. Figgles
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    Figgles

    Ok I figured it out. Between a 50 something year old coil and a long fuel filter in a short fuel filter housing, the car would not accelerate. Removed the ff and replaced the coil- runs like a super old scalded dog.
     
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  23. bill gruendeman
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    Great that you got it running good!!
     
  24. twenty8
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    Funny thing about a lot of carb problems is that, in a lot of cases, it turns out it's not the carb at all...........:rolleyes:
     

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