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1952-59 Ford 79 granada

Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by rockin rebel, Sep 10, 2011.

  1. rockin rebel
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    I see that nite-owl, has put the whole steering and discs from a 79 Ford Granada....anyone know what years they include..? is the fairmont the same.?? thanks, Lloyd :confused:
     
  2. Nite Owl
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    I ***ume you are wanting to put the Granada ***embly on the '54 Victoria? 1978-1980 Granada and Maverick are the ones to look for. I can send you the info/part numbers/instructions if you would like me to. It's really an easy install. The Jeep/Borgeson boxes look like they would be a pretty neat set up too, but I have never tried them. I had access to the Granada stuff. It was there, cheap, and easy, so that's what I used.
     
  3. 54HotRod
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    Could I also get the info/part numbers/and instructions?
     
  4. fxcomet
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    Fairmont is not the same. Don't forget the Lincoln Versailles of the same years. It's the same basic car underneath.
     
  5. rockin rebel
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    thanks all, good info.
     
  6. Mark T
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    The power steering from a Granada can also be adapted to the '54-'56 Fords, its basically the same style PS that these old cars came with.
     
  7. nascardave
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    Hi, If any one is interested I have all of the steering components and some handy instructions to install granada steering on a 54-56 ford. Very reasonable. Dave
     
  8. Nite Owl
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    54HotRod, I am travelling this week and will be home no later than Friday (I hope). Send me a pm with the email address, fax number or mailing address, whichever you prefer and I will be glad to send it to you.
     
  9. parklane
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    NIGHT OWL..........you mention that the Granada and Maverick front end is the same. Are you sure you didn't mean Granada and Monarch, cuz they are for sure. :confused:;):D
     
  10. riskybiz
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    Hey I second what you said parklane. The Granada, Mercury Monarch, lincoln Versailles are all the same. I have gotten them from pick-n-pull to use on my cars. The ford Mavrick had a different front end. My 73 Maverick grabber had drum brakes. Just my 2 cents on subject.
     
  11. chopd top
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    I could be wrong, but I think the '74 and up Mavericks were pretty much the same as the Granada/Monarch/Versailles. '73 and earlier were different like riskybiz stated.
     
  12. Retro Jim
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    Mavericks are different along with the Fairmont and WON'T WORK period ! The ONLY ones that will work are the Granada , Monarch and Versailles !
    So.....by the time you look for the parts you need for the conversion , clean the parts , resize the spindles to fit your car , why don't you just spend the money and buy the kit made for your car ! That way you know it will fit the correct way with the right parts that was designed for your car and to work safely every time !
    Just something to consider !

    Jim
     
  13. rockin rebel
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    what kit do you talk about, Jim.?? Thanks
     
  14. Retro Jim
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    Disc brake conversion kit .

    Jim
     
  15. 1 Ford fan
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    There is a guy here in LA.CA. Craigs list that sells a disc brake conversion that uses your spindle no need for any machine work, and won't lower the car. I know nothing about them other than was under $400.00 If you need a link I'll look for you. Not ***ocisted with them just giving information. Gerry
     
  16. fxcomet
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  17. chopd top
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    http://www.fordmaverick.info/articles/frontdisc/index.html
    Jim, this backs up what I was referring to. I knew there were interchangeable parts , I just wasn't sure of the years. It turns out to be '75 up and not '74. Mavericks were a bucket of ******* designs if Ford ever made one (although I personally like the car). The link is about a disc brake upgrade for a Maverick but describes the differences between them well. Now, buying a disc brake kit is a great way to go if you don't want the h***el of scrounging for the parts, BUT, if anyone wants to do the scrounging I don't see why these cars shouldn't be considered for donor parts because they WILL work.
    I've seen the kits 1 Ford Fan and fxcomet are talking about and they seem like a pretty good way to go too! Just my $.02 worth
     
  18. Retro Jim
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    Chopd Top , I did read that article and that's very interesting . It says you can use the Granada and the other 2 look a like models , to upgrade the Maverick brakes but not sure how to make the Maverick brakes work on a 54-55-56 fords since you have to use Granada parts to make the Maverick work . I might be missing something here .
    Fxcomet & 1 Ford Fan , I am very interested in the kit that is being sold in Ca. for $385 plus like $75 shipping . That is a great deal ! I did bookmarked that one for my 55 Ford and when I finish with the engine & trans I am doing and buy a drive shaft I am looking into buying that disc brake swap for my 55 . Any disc brake upgrade where I don't have to change the spindles is good for me !
    I am still curious about the Maverick disc brakes but seems like a bunch of mix matched parts to make it work from the Maverick and Granada .

    Jim
     
  19. nascardave
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    Just so everyone understands, 75 and up mavericks,comets and 75/80 granadas are all the same spindles and use the same rotors,bearings,calipers and pads. Some early mavericks take a different outer tie rod than granada. You can also use lincoln versailles spindles but they will lower the front of your car about 1 1/2". Hope this helps.
     
  20. rockin rebel
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    thanks, I was just going to ask that.. I was told 78-80 Granadas.. but I just found a 76, with discs, 302 auto and p/s... this is the right one, now.???? thanks, Lloyd
     
  21. chopd top
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    nascardave hit the nail on the head :) I'll repeat a tip Jeff offered up; go to O'Reilly Auto Parts page and look up a part (rotor for example) for a '76 Granada. When the choices come up, click on one and then click on the compatibility tab. It will list all years and models that part fits.
    Yes rockin rebel, '76 Granada w/discs, 302 would be the right one.
     
  22. fxcomet
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    Granada production began in '75. I do not know for sure if they had any major suspension upgrades from 75-78, but I seriously doubt it.
     
  23. rockin rebel
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    yaaaaaaaaaahooooooooo,:D thanks... this one I found is a grandpas car, with 78,00 miles, bucket seats, disc, rebuilt auto, all for $800. asking....gotta go get it... thanks again for all your guys help...Lloyd
     
  24. nascardave
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    Just a little more help 75/80 mercury monarchs are the same as 75/80 granadas. You can also use 68/72 mustang disc brake spindles. They are the same basic measurement as granada but use different calipers and brackets and require the same machining as granadas. These are the same spindles that gemco supply with their brake kits. Hope this is not to much overload. Dave
     
  25. Nite Owl
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    Many other Ford/Mercury spindles will bolt up with little or no machine work on the lower ball joint location. Some later Thunderbirds/Cougars will bolt up (without rack and pinion steering). The '75-'80 Granada and Maverick power steering components also bolt up. Yep, the Maverick is the same.
     
  26. rockin rebel
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    ok guys, I am back on this project, BUT, it is a 53 Mercury frame. and I have a 72 Torino, that I was told somewhere on the Hamb, would work.. let me start over.. I am using my 54 Victoria body and making a 53 Mercury.. have all the Merc parts and frame. The Vicky had a totally rusted roof.!!! rat piss... so I bought the Merc which has a totally rotten floor... see where I am going ..lol so now I want to keep the Merc suspension and want discs, and ps...I have the areostar coils...so want are my options.?? thanks again, Lloyd aka Rockin rebel
     
  27. Mark T
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    If the '53 Mercury has the same frame as the '53 Ford then the disc brake upgrade will not work, '53 and earlier had a kingpin front suspension. In '54 they switched to a balljoint suspension, this is the suspension that can be upgraded using spindles from other Fords and Mercurys.
     
  28. JeffB2
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    You should probably use the '54 Vic Frame so you have the IFS instead of the '53 Merc kingpins.
     
  29. 5d6fairlane
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    I believe that the lower ball joint hole has to be reamed out and a spacer has to be used between the castle nut and lower ball hole. One other note is if you decide to buy rebuilt calipers decide what you want the finish to be on them before you buy. I wanted my calipers black but the ones I got from advance auto have a clear coat finish on them and the paint would not stick so I have ordered a set from napa because their web site states they are black coated. I think the lincoln versailles already have the lower ball joint hole the correct size. My choice was to order spindles fron toms cl***ic that way the spindles were painted reamed along with new backing plates and purchased my calipers and rotors locally. If I had it to do all over again I would have just orderd the complete kit from them and saved the time and know that everything would fit.
     
  30. nascardave
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    Hi Guys, I have granada spindles and I have all the parts necessary to install these brakes on your car. I will answer any questions and give advice on how to correctly install these spindles. I can do the machining to correctly fit 54 to 64 fords with either 1 1/2" or 2 1/2" drop. I am more than happy to ***ist in what ever it takes to get disc brakes on your cars. You can email me daverace@sbcglobal.net or you can give me a call 818 572 5302 Dave drop'em&stop'em
     

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