So what do you think about these new parts? I think they are cool, but there's alot of things I could drop 3G's on before this. http://www.mooneyes.com/MISC/drive.html
Didn't we do this with fake patina a week ago? 50% will like 'em, 50% will think they are gay/stupid/the worst thing thay have ever seen/a threat to national security, etc. IMHO - I'd fight with 97's before spending $3K
i wonder if they are getting these from classic gas or they just ripped their idea off. since i talk to classic gas quite a while ago on essentiall the same set up. and after all that i'm fighting with 6 94's rather then forking over the green
[ QUOTE ] 50% will like 'em, 50% will think they are gay/stupid/the worst thing thay have ever seen/a threat to national security, etc. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah, I know what you mean - half of me loves the idea, half of me hates it! Fortunately, at those prices, the decision is easy...
[ QUOTE ] Classic gas is making them, Moon locked in the distribution rights. [/ QUOTE ] correction Moon locked in the rights to F*** us on the price. for that simple reason I'd never run them.
I can see it now... In fifty years when there just plain ain't no gas left, and even all the old hotrods have been converted to hydrogen fuel cell electric motors. some one's gonna be making an electric motor with a shell over it that "looks and sounds just like a Ford flathead V8!" to accessorize all the imitation rust spotted "Super Krypton Fibre" "traditional" hotrods. On their bald heads, they'll be wearing greased pompadore wigs that are guaranteed to not get messed up or blow off in the wind in their reproduction traditional roadsters at the National 45 MPH speed limit too. There used to be a car with so much prestige that everyone crowded around to see them because they truely were rare. I saw one at the Giovanni's cruise a while back and it was totally ignored because there are so many fakes around no one cares. Maybe it's because it had the skinny fenders of it's early 289" production instead of the "silicone enhanced" looking bulges of the 427" Cobra... Fake cars, fake carburetors, fake blowers, fake*****s, fake*****s, fake pussies on blow up dolls. I feel sorry for women who by a good gene pool were god-given perfect big*****s and now have to go through life being asked be****-holes to prove they aren't fakes. I feel sorry for the person with a really rare real Cobra being asked who's kit it was built from. I'm gonna feel really sad for the guys who actually know how to make multiple '97s work without leaking and be asked where they hid the FI computer. Hotrodding is about going faster than yesterday with whatever technology, or black magick, the builder can invent, or dream up during his REM period, using the information gathered from the previous day's experiment. Fake FI 97's belong on one of the cars on Mr. Toad's Wild ride at Disneyland. Even the Mainstreet parade cars are at least real 50's hotrods (One of them even has an original Bell dropped axle under it.
I just wish Stromberg would produce the real 97s again so people wouldn't think they were solid gold and worth your firstborn child! Same with Carter and WCFBs. Stupid question: Does Stromberg even exist anymore?
Yeah, Stromberg is still around, they made the O-rings in the solid rocket boosters for the Space Shuttle.
[ QUOTE ] Yeah, Stromberg is still around, they made the O-rings in the solid rocket boosters for the Space Shuttle. [/ QUOTE ] For real? or are you making joke because of the leak factor?
Guys, The tooling and manufacturing rights for the 97 ended up at a Bendix plant in upstate New York back in the at 60s. That's where the last 97s were built. When the last OE service business ended they scrapped all the tooling not knowing what a great market they could have had. What a shame that was.
God, what a******* shame. Still, I'd think anyone with a good carb to take apart and a CNC machine could get production going again...
The 4 carbs on my hot rod are real Rochester carbs with two FI injectors built into each carb, on top of a Man-A-Fre manifold. I have had that set up close to four years now. It didn't cost no 3 grand either.
You could make that your self,pick up some 18/20lb. injectors hang them in the top of the carb throat like GM tbi's(with the right air cleaner/scoop it/they would be hidden).A simple computer from like one of the Holley set ups and it would be ready to go.
Sure, bolt those on your small block chev and put the $850 hemi valve covers on it. Stick the motor in a glass body, then top the whole thing off with one of those quick change rear end covers. Oh, man, you'll have the coolest car at the show. Maybe I'm a bit cynical about the whole thing, but why would want an EFI setup that only looks like a quartet of 97s? It would be like a photocopy of the Mona Lisa. It isnt the real thing, and everybody knows it. Some one on the hamb said, want on the comforts of home? Stay home. If you want electronic fuel injection, buy a honda. I'd say the money would be better spent making a some new dies to produce some new Strombergs. Dave
Uhhh yeah, THAT WAS a joke! So that guy with the FI Rochesters in now on the HAMB? The black roadster?????
When I read the article in Street Rodder about these I wondered the same thing ...why isn't anyone reproducing 97s? How many of the parts are already reproduced to put a new 97 together? WWS [ QUOTE ] I'd say the money would be better spent making a some new dies to produce some new Strombergs. [/ QUOTE ]
i think locking in a distributorship means you agree to fund the marketing in exchange for a agreed markup on the item. small companies with no funds a lot of times rely on a distributorship deal in order to sell their product that otherwise would not make it on the market. im sure moon took a chance on this and payed the originator a up front fee. we need someone to do this or lots of items would not be there for us to buy.just think what the first person got paid that made your mexican blanket and how many times it got marked up before it hit your car ! just a thought.
If it didn't have to be a 97 www.piercemanifolds.com offers some alternatives in the hot rod section. I see they are also jumping on the EFI bandwagon offering injected versions of the good dual throat Webers.
They must be handing out parkas in hell 'cuz on the Pierce site I just saw a Chevette with triple downdraft Webers. Makes a fake FI Stromberg seem positively ordinary by comparison.
For the price of these puppies you could be running a baby blower on your flatty. Of course I have to add that my eyes don't care if*****s or speed equipment are fake (enhanced) or real........cool is cool!
Just wondering if there were a cheap alternative to the solenoid controlled injectors and computer, what sort of throttle body would you hide it in? 97? injector style that takes 97 scoops? I ask because I have been pondering for a few years some sort of updated multi carb alternative. I envision an inline electric pump with RPM controlled voltage similar to what Edelbrock put together for its water injection, a TPS, a simple fan switch for choke, and a vacuum switch for the power valve enrichment. Jets would be misting nozzles similar to the produce section or ones like in the large shower heads and a simple sheet metal plate at 45* in front of them to further bust up the droplets. This sort of injector used to be offered for snowmobiles, etc. and the recently posted 97 injector tops, although crude, just a throttle controlled ball valve, got me thinking. All i would need machined would be a base plate with 97 and Rochester bolt patterns and a throttle blade. If you want a repro carb it could be cast out of anything or formed from sheet. It would be nice to turn the throttle shaft so they could be linked end to end and save a $100 in linkage. After all it was $3600, not $3000 for Mooneye's 3 deuce and more carbs would send it even higher.
HOTROD30: Do you have any how to info about your set up? Any close up pictures? I****ume you are running a return line? Did you keep the*****erflies in the carbs? What are you using for throttle position sensor? Closed loop? Oxygen sensor?
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