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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Ryan, Sep 28, 2022.

  1. Petejoe
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    0C127C8D-B102-4B5C-A8DA-4CDF8F9919A0.png Holy shit! I’ll be studying these for hours. Who forwarded these to you Ryan. Thx to all!!
    what the heck is this actually???
    Anyone have any info??

    Strange to see this on a car back then. B6C97733-32AA-4C95-B908-3BE126ADCBAA.png
     
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  2. Ryan
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    I'm not allowed to say who sent the images... Long delicate story. :)

    As for that setup, it looks to be a crank driven 371 or 471 blower with a homemade blower top. It's nuts...
     
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  3. TA DAD
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    That's great ! those are Hot Rods.
     
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  4. NoSurf
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    A-1 Club
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    A-1 Club
    Location
    West Wendover
    Opening date 1948
    Closing date 1967; 55 years ago
    Casino type Land
    Coordinates Coordinates: [​IMG]40.7404°N 114.0753°W
    A-1 Club was a gas station and coffee shop originally and then in 1948 expanded to include a casino. This was located in West Wendover, Nevada.

    History[edit]
    The A-1 Club (casino operations) opened in 1948 and closed in 1967.[1]

    In the earlier years of the A-1, it basically functioned as the mess hall for Wendover Army Air Field when the air field was not in full training mode and the on-base mess hall was not available.[2]

    According to one reference, it was owned by a man named Twain West.[3] However, in another article about casinos of West Wendover, the man's name is Fred West. The casino was bought out by the wife of Casino owner William "Bill" Smith who owned the Stateline Casino. The wife's name was Anna Smith, and she then renamed the A-1 Club to Jim's Casino and continued to run the business.[4] In 1972 - Jim’s Casino took the place of the A-1 Casino.[5]
     
  5. the oil soup
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    Looks to be the Graf zeppelin visited S.F. and L.A. in ‘29
    3BA9C8EE-2BB3-4AEC-8C45-F285A773FBB3.jpeg
     
  6. Appreciate the respect for anonymity- please tell them we all said "thank you!!!"
     
  7. redo32
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  8. Ryan
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  9. rattlecanrods
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    It's killing me that I can't recall what that beast is based on. Looks like a stretched Devin SS at times. Definitely looks to be one from the Forgotten Fiberglass pages.
     
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  10. Several (if not all) of the Bonneville photos that this “Anonymous” HAMB member has in “his” archive … including those of:
    ... are by Bill Hewitt... most likely "lifted" from the William Hewitt Photograph Collection hosted within The Revs Digital Library.

    NOTE: I've posted many of Hewitt's photographs in several HAMB threads (see links above) ... but I've always been careful to give him proper credit for the images.
     
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  11. Tow Truck Tom
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    Gee golly. Thanks a hundred thirty sumpinsumpinSumpin-else times.
    Had to cancel my appointments today.
     
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  12. Ryan
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    That seems accusatory.

    You say "his archive" because that's how I labeled it. The sender didn't label it that way and that's my bad... I did ask for permission to use these.

    Ironic because you know what annoys the shit out of me? When people like AHRF and others watermark their historical photos. In my opinion, historical photos should belong to the people! What good is it to hide this stuff away when there are people chomping at the bit to learn from them?
     
  13. I'm okay with watermarking, as long as it's not across the focal point of the photo making it useless for inspecting for closer details... "cough" Peterson archives "cough"
     
  14. Ryan
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    I get the legality of it and all that... And totally get a photographer watermarking his own photo... But I'm not down with "collections" taking ownership. I know it's legal, I'd just never do it.
     
  15. Fantastic resource!
    Wheels: lots of wires, lots of solid disc. Wide fives? Mmm, not so much.
     
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  16. I'm not trying to come off as defending it. And I definitely agree about "collections" being watermarked. That is "our history" and should be available to everyone.

    I'm just stating my issue with huge watermarks across a focus point of a photo. I don't even want to look at it, and I'm less likely to support a place that does that.
     
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  17. Ryan
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    No. I get it homie. And agree.
     
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  18. banjorear
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    Like others, I've been studying these picts for hours. This detail caught my eye: Are those "air" holes drilled into the plexiglass windshield?

    I absolutely would love to have been around this time period and been able to race with these midgets. I like to pretend I'd be well healed enough to have an alcohol burning Offy powered racer.
     
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  19. Six Ball
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    Cool, Thanks! Several Chevy roadsters in there.
     
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  20. @Ryan Cochran -

    I apologize for coming across so accusatory ... You're correct, I did assume that this "Anonymous” HAMBer was claiming that the images were either taken by him (or a family member) ... or that he purchased the images off eBay or an estate sale ... and we all know what they say about assuming (Ass-U-Me) :rolleyes:

    I too hate that AHRF puts their watermark on the images (albeit usually in the lower right hand corner) ... they have a dozen or so of my father's images in their "archives" that they claim came from "{so & so's} Collection" when in reality, the person just "right click saved" the image off of one of my 2006-2015 H.A.M.B. posts.

    Finding my or my father's images elsewhere on the Internet never really bothered me ... as I too believe "historical photos should belong to the people" and the whole reason I post these images on Automotive forums & websites is to educate folks about the history of our sport/hobby ... but then about 2016, I started finding my images on websites being used to sell a product. So rather deal with getting a lawyer to send cease & desist letters to these "companies", I chose to start adding a copyright watermark on the images to somewhat deter folks from profiting off of my images.

    I like the way Rik @Rikster Hoving watermarks historical photographs on his Custom Car Chronicle website:

    CCC watermark.JPG
    ... and how Sondre @SuperFleye & Olaf @Kvipt watermark historical photographs on their Kustomrama website:

    KUSTOMRAMA watermark.JPG
    I also completely understand why my friend Jamie @Jimmy B Barter puts his Jimmy. logo.jpg logo on every image he posts on the Internet ... 'cuz I'm guessin' he has well over AUD $10,000 invested in the purchase of vintage Hot Rodding/Dry Lakes photographs, publications, & memorabilia.

    Again, I'm sorry I de-railed your excellent TJJ Blog / resultant thread.
    - Todd @HEMI32 Olson
     
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  21. Ryan
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    No harm, no foul homie… all good. Sincerely.

    Also, no one with a website should take credit for a historical photo in my opinion. And a watermark is basically a flex, right? Just sort of weird to me. I couldn’t do it. Different strokes and all that though…
     
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  22. Speed Gems
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    The same goes for YouTube videos. I get pissed when I post a YouTube video with low views on here, to give it a boost, and share it with lots of people who want to see it and they take down their video.:mad: Thats history we want to see.
     
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  24. glrbird
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    Can anyone answer the question” Why did the Roadster racers prefer 23 to 27 bodies”? Even my Father used one. Weight? Plentiful? Guess I should ask that question a long time ago. A5A07467-D200-4CC8-9DE4-BD2AD56FD1AA.jpeg
     
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  25. 5window
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    If I am reading the production numbers correctly https://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/fdprod.htm there were three times as many '23s as '27s so availability might have been one factor.
     
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  26. Thanks mate! You have helped me so much over years on purchases I am real thankful for that! :cool:

    Haha, yeah.... umm, 10k probably covers the postage I've paid on what I have bought :(. Any sane person would have bought a '32 o_O I never use to watermark images until they started showing up online for sale on sites like ebay, etsy, etc. I try to watermark an image in a way that is hard to crop or edit but doesn't overlay the main subject like Revs or Petersen. The alternative is images in different collections won't get shown and we are all the worst for not being able to study the history they represent.
     

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  27. alfin32
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    Definitely not a D-Jag, they had a small spare tire door at the very end of the tail.
     
  28. Hamtown Al
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    20140126 GNRS Bob Knapp's 999B.jpg
    My deceased friend, Bob Knapp, played a later role with the Herda streamliner. Bob kept the streamliner for many years at his home in NC. I'm honored to say I've seen the car in person and was allowed to touch it. Regretably, at the time, it was pretty much in the same condition as when Bob Herda made his last pass in the vehicle which met with disaster and resulted in Bob Herda's passing. All of this was shared with me by Bob Knapp. The car did set the top land speed record for a single engine car using a Ford Cammer engine at 357.xxx(if my memory is correct!). Knapp had a large sign in his storage area with the car proclaiming as much. Knapp's story about the Ford engineers reactions to the horsepower the liner boys were able to get out of THEIR engine is hilarious.:D
    Knapp, Herda, and Milodon were the main players at that time as I understand it... I believe all three names were on the tail fin when I saw it in NC. Knapp sent the car back to CA, I think, where it was restored as shown above.
    Bob Knapp introduced me to Art Arfons, another of his pals, while Art was visiting in NC.
    I saw Art soon after he had a big crash on the Salt Flats and asked him what it was like? He said he had a gauge in the cockpit that indicated that the direction of the nose(up or down). He said he saw it indicate that it was going up and he said he thought, "Oh shit!!" Remarkably, by the time the rescue folks got to the crash, Art was out of the vehicle and walking around!! Knapp also introduced me to one of the Summers' brothers... another great in the go fast world. I feel honored to have even been introduced to these legends; let alone spending a fair amount of time with them and hearing their stories. I believe Bob Knapp had the best attitude about doing things of anyone I ever met. When whatever he was trying to do to accomplish something would fail; rather than being discouraged, Bob almost gleefully would say, "Well, now we know that won't work; so let's try something else." Amazing and very talented guys all.
    Bob was great friends with Kent Fuller, too, but I never got to meet him with Bob. I miss my pal but still stay in touch with his wife... she's a sweetheart and just gave up having her own garden this year!! I hope I'm still here in my later 80s!! Maybe I should start a garden!:D:D
     
  29. Rickybop
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    You're right. Not necessarily on the hot rods so much. But monsters and goons and shrunken heads and the like might have been even more popular with the youngsters as an art form back then than they are today.
     
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  30. Stogy
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