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A little help on Xstear and split bones

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Hart Rod, Nov 12, 2010.

  1. Hart Rod
    Joined: Aug 4, 2008
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    Hart Rod
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    from Syracuse

    Can I use cross stear on an A with split bones? Will it interfere?

    I am getting ready to push the BUY button on a Speedway front end with split bones. I have a vega box for cross steer.

    PS This is obviously my first build.
     
  2. I am a believer that split bones and x-steer = bad. Think about it what holds the axle in place when the steering box is trying to push it sideways? Sure it will work but most likely in conjunction with some sort of panhard bar.
     

  3. Yea needs a panhard bar. No hill for a stepper though.

    its doable been done by a bunch of fellas that weren't even as smart as you (Hart Rod).
     
  4. Hart Rod
    Joined: Aug 4, 2008
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    Hart Rod
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    from Syracuse

    Thanks guys. It's nice to have older / wiser folks than me willing to share their wisdom. :).
     
  5. would you still need a pan hard with the bones mounted under the frame similar to unsplit bones? below is a picture of what i am talking about.

    i am building a 32 truck with 33/34 bones 4"drop axle and i entended to use a 40 steering box set up with crosssteer but i do not want a pan hard. i like the way the frame in the picture is set up, but is it going to be enough?
     

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  6. pasadenahotrod
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    from Texas

    Panhard bars were not necessary on pre-42 Ford Passenger cars and pickups even with split wishbones IF the spring is mounted in tension as Ford designed it to be. Cross-steering was stock on Fords without Panhard bars from 1935-41.

    If you have wishbone interference try modifying the steering arms up or down or hooking up the drag link to the tie rod inside the wishbone area.
     
  7. DD COOPMAN
    Joined: Jul 25, 2009
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    "Think about it....", the steering box ISN'T pushing sideways on the AXLE. It's pushing / pulling on the spindle arms which rotate about the ends of the axle on the greased kingpins. Henry didn't have any problem making this system work from '35 on. Just how many "traditional", or stock for that matter, '35-'40 Fords can you count that have, or need, panhard rods? My raggedy ol' '40 goes on down the road just fine (pretty nicely, as a matter of fact) without one, thank you. DD
     
  8. barry wny
    Joined: Dec 31, 2009
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    My jalopy fits that criteria and it drives like a dream. Have an F1 box and started to go that way and didn't like the concept. Used 37 axles, tie rod & drag link and box and a joint to make the steering wheel come in the right spot. Never any hint of wobble, shimmy, or whatever, and tires were never balanced.
    If you have stock leingth shackles with proper pre-load, no need for panhard. Later (postwar) cars had 4" shackles, had to have panhard & sway bar.
     
  9. barry wny
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    &))(* !! pictures
     

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