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Technical A question for the lincoln crowd (and flathead experts in general)

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by porknbeaner, Sep 12, 2013.

  1. So first off I am not sure where this should land so it is here for now.

    I am mucking around the internet just looking at stuff and I see a Lincoln flatty for sale. A '50 V-8 to be exact. I know nothing about the Lincoln Flathead V-8. But it has peaked my interest.

    So the question is this, is it bigger then say the merc or is it a merc flatty in a Lincol wrapper or??

    Speed parts available or is it a build your own speed parts deal?

    Anyone care to fill me in here?

    Thanks
    benno
     
  2. the-rodster
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  3. Rich
    Well now I know what to ask at least.

    I had a big lincoln Y block in a '54 Ford once and loved it but I just don't know anything at all about lincoln flatties.

    If it is the right engine it would make a cool addition to a custom that I may start on in the near future.
     
  4. hotrawd
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    I had a '49 Lincoln a few years ago. It had the "big" flathead (same as the big trucks). Very heavy and not a great performer. Speed parts are rare and big $$$$$.
     

  5. When we say big how big are we talking? Cubes is the question.

    This engine if I decide to snag it may go in an old sedan. The smaller one is like a merc or???
     
  6. Special Ed
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    Muntz used 'em from '50-'52. Basically 337 cubic inch boat anchors. Some speed equipment was made by a few (Evans comes to mind), but it is rare and very high-dollar. I ran one for a few years, and it was difficult to keep it cool enough to drive any real distance (partly due to the underhood design of the car). Lots of compliments when I opened my hood, but I would not repeat ....
     
  7. Ed
    Thanks for the info. I am guessing that it would take more radiator than say a stock '38 radiator to keep it cool enough to drive.
     
  8. My mind might be slippin' but I think the Lincoln was a 337 , merc a 255 (just built one of those , ) and the ford a 239 , ,,, The reason I think my mind is going , I somehow remember a 271cid ????????maybe that was the Formerculinkoln, I have been wwrong before on an occcasion or two
     
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  10. 19Fordy
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    As I recall, the 337 Lincoln weighs around 750 pounds. Opps, make that 850 from HAMB.
    Re: LINCOLN Flathead V8
    the flathead lincoln weighs in at almost 850pnds.. (now i remember why i passed on one not too long ago). it would be a neat motor to put in a hot rod regardless
    http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...s-337bigV8.htm
     
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  11. nexxussian
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    Someone was making heads, and manifolds recently for the 8 and the 12.

    It's been posted about before (don't remember what thread, and it's a PITA to search with my phone @ the moment :( ).

    I too think it would be neat to try, in the right car.

    I remember seeing the guy with the new stuff @ the Portland swap meet a few years back, cool looking stuff, but make sure you are up on your heart meds when you check the price (maybe sit down too). :eek:

    I was thinking one of them in a track roadster with no hood sides (just the top) or sides with the doors like an old Packard. (30-31 A)

    Let us know if you get it. :)
     
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  12. HEATHEN
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    I believe a guy in Oregon currently sells three carb intakes for them.
     
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  14. Bruce Lancaster
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    Big, strong chugger, might be a good engine for a heavy old cruiser, and with some aluminum on top ($$$) it would look good...its larger size allows it to visually fill a big engine compartment.
    And it it's not heavy enough for you, note that it came stock with a GM hydramatic!
     
  15. moonlight graham
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    Ken Austin in Newberg Oregon makes an intake and heads. He's the guy that casts the intake manifolds for the Arduns that you see running around.

    Geoffrey
     
  16. Rusty O'Toole
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    They were the replacement for the V12 Lincoln Zephyr engine used up to 1948.

    Everyone forgets there were 2 new luxury car V8s in 1949, the OHV Cadillac, 331 cu in, 160 Hp and the Lincoln, 337 cu in 154 Hp. Both with 7.5:1 compression.

    The Lincoln was a completely different engine from the Ford or Mercury. Although it had a family resemblance in appearance it was much larger and shared no parts.

    They were used in cars 49 - 51, with 3 speed manual, overdrive, or Hydramatic trans. And in heavy Ford trucks up to 1958.

    About a year ago I saw a book at Chapters about rebuilding and hot rodding some old engines, one of them was the Lincoln flathead V8. Sorry I don't remember the title but if it is available a search on Amazon should turn it up.

    So far as I know, there are no speed parts available.

    If I got a chance to buy a Lincoln in good shape I would buy it, especially a 2 door (Mercury style) sedan or the big Cosmopolitan. But I don't think I would bother swapping one into anything else.
     
  17. FrozenMerc
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    This image has been posted on the HAMB before, but it best illustrates the size difference between the standard Ford flathead and the big Lincoln 337.

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  18. Rusty O'Toole
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  19. Hell the hydromatic alone probably weighs in the 150-200 lb range.

    The lincoln is a behemoth. The one in question comes with an auto attached so I am going to guess hydro.

    Can you imagine that bugger in the hole where a V-8 60 used to reside. Be great for the low and slow crowd.
     
  20. Bruce Lancaster
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    Plus you won't have to worry about lowering the front end...
     
  21. Probably have to worry about the radius rods banging into the frame though. :eek:

    Bruce,
    Did Lincoln just make the one V-8?
     
  22. Bigcheese327
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    I'm not Bruce, but I know they made a fork-and-blade V8 from '17 to '32.
     
  23. They have their uses.

    The KIWI way.


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