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A Steering box question

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Reggie, Jan 19, 2004.

  1. I'm looking for a steering box that is similar to an F1 box, but works in reverse. I'd like for my steering arm to point upwards rather than downwards like the F1 box does. Have any of you run across a box like that?
     
  2. Flat Ernie
    Joined: Jun 5, 2002
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    Flat Ernie
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    You might try to find a right-hand drive vehicle that uses side steering like Land Rover or maybe even VW van.

    [​IMG]
     
  3. tommy
    Joined: Mar 3, 2001
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    I understand you can use 35-36 worm and sector in the 32-34 Ford box to get the upward facing pitman arm and a level drag link.
     
  4. Ted H
    Joined: Jan 7, 2003
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    VW van box. A neat compact little box and can be rotated to adjust coluomb angle. This is what Marty Strode uses in his track roadsters.
    Ted
     
  5. flt-blk
    Joined: Jun 25, 2002
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    from IL

    What are you working on now?

    Isn't the ElJefe's car upside down? I heard it was a Chris
    Craft part.
    Maybe talk to Modernbeat, he has all kinds of parts he may
    be willing to part with.
    TZ
     
  6. Didn't Root have an upside down/backwards box in the Drag-N-Fly? [​IMG]Check with him.What bout a mustang box......Shiny
     
  7. buzzard
    Joined: Apr 20, 2001
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    Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Goldenrod has a boat box in it. Seems Franco had a little turn left, go right suprise when he first tried it!
     
  8. Thanks for the info guys. I'm trying to get a tighter left turning radius on my Model A coupe. With the size tires that I'm running, the tire rubs drag link on tight left turns. The problem was created because I had to bend the downward pointing F1 pitman arm outward to clear the wishbone. I was going to go with a shorter front tire, but didn't like the looks. Off to the junkyard I go!!!
     
  9. modernbeat
    Joined: Jul 2, 2001
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    from Dallas, TX

    Hotwheels - If you haven't found the box you're looking for, I've got the exact same ChrisCraft box that Franco used in the Goldenrod. You can also use just about any Cross Steer box. I've been told stories about folks gutting an F1 box and replacing the guts with '40 guts. That would give you a mount that mounts to the frame rail in a nice way, and the pitman arm will point up.

    Take a look at the Roundup pics. The little grey modified that MOE built used a stock 1940 Steering box and mounted it sideways on a tall bracket to use it in a sidesteer location. The bracket isn't the smoothest thing
     
  10. J Man
    Joined: Dec 11, 2003
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    from Angola, IN

    It's probibly not what you want but there is a company in Ohio (I think) that makes a cross steer R&P that mounts like a vega box. It might help with your problem.
     
  11. Andy
    Joined: Nov 17, 2002
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    Any cross steer box will work like you want it to. I have thought of turning a vega on it's side. I had a mustang box that I mocked up but ended up with the vega in std. position. A 58-64 Chevy box would work too.
     
  12. 201
    Joined: Dec 17, 2002
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    Could't you re-machine the steering arm and change what ever indexes it to the output shaft? I guess it's a keyway or somthing. Cut it on a broch or tilted in the vice of a vert. mill and sneak a cutter in?
     
  13. modernbeat
    Joined: Jul 2, 2001
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    from Dallas, TX

    I almost forgot. Take a good look at Suzuki Samurai boxes. Small and set up for cross steering and I -think- the attachment points were set up in such a way that they would look good bolted through a frame rail.
     
  14. Pigiron
    Joined: Jan 21, 2002
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    There's a Mustang box with pitman arm on ebay. Auction #2470500279.
     
  15. Blownolds
    Joined: Mar 31, 2001
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    Blownolds
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    from So Cal

    What's preventing you from just flipping the arm around on the output shaft?
     
  16. Bruce Lancaster
    Joined: Oct 9, 2001
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    Bruce Lancaster
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    "What's preventing you from just flipping the arm around on the output shaft?"

    And what would that do for drag link motion...?? [​IMG]
    Good anti-theft idea, though.
     
  17. 201
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    I think I see what you mean .Left becomes right.
     
  18. Bruce Lancaster
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    "Left becomes right"
    A perfect Zen moment! The sound of one hamb clapping!
     
  19. 201
    Joined: Dec 17, 2002
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    201
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    mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
     
  20. '67-'68 mustang box would work.
     

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