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Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by RyanAK, Sep 17, 2022.

  1. nrgwizard
    Joined: Aug 18, 2006
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    Fat fingered that one. :D . Then missed it... ;( . No drugs, no alky, no caffeine, no sleep? Good for a chuckle...
    Marcus... <---- got it right this time...
     
  2. RyanAK
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    For anyone interested, there's a pretty amazing write up on the disassembly of these carbs over on Ford Barn. The author calls it a 'disection' and that's a good description. It'll give you a good look at how these simple carbs are set up. I actually think a pair of these are going to go pretty good on this motor.

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  3. Forgive me- which Marvel carbs are those???
     
  4. RyanAK
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    Hey, Mac. These are Marvel-Schebler carbs that were sold as replacements for Model A and B Fords after Ford stopped stocking the Zeniths. This was also available at various parts stores, including Sears where it was known as the Allstate Model 2405.
     
  5. RyanAK
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  6. RyanAK
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    Renner's Corner has rebuild kits and gaskets for these carbs, along with some good information. Together with the 'disection' posted on Ford Barn, there's plenty of support to run these. The guys that like them, really like them. 9D1738EE-08AC-4D53-B495-F1BA90FF401D.jpeg
    The guys that don't see them as another pot metal discount replacement carb with all the issues inherent with that category.
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  7. Is it done yet? When we going for a ride? Impatiently waiting
     
  8. RyanAK
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    Real-time updates. I’m currently on a conference call.
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    I think I need an ultrasonic cleaner. And courage to get the seat and jet out of these… :oops:
     
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  9. Outback
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    I love Ultrasonic cleaners, they are working while you do something else.
     
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  10. RyanAK
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    I love my wife, she’s…

    Nevermind. :p
     
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  11. RyanAK
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    Can anyone recommend an ultrasonic cleaner large enough to take a carburetor?
     
  12. HEATHEN
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    I bought one from Eastwood last year that'll take just about any size carburetor (disassembled, of course).
     
  13. RyanAK
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    What size would that be, Heathen? I see Harbor Freight’s small one, then Amazon has one with mechanical dials (I like that!) at 10L for not much money. This isn’t gonna get heavy use, but I’d like to be sure it’ll work when I want it to.
     
  14. RyanAK
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    Progress this afternoon. We’re literally getting an hour here and there…
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  15. RyanAK
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    Also… I assume this is California, but… it has a LOT of things going for it. Dual updrafts! And two spares!
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  16. RyanAK
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    Any suggestions on cleaning the water passages on a vintage cast iron head?
     
  17. ClarkH
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  18. RyanAK
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    Thanks Clark. I’ll have to take a look. Molasses and vinegar and evaporust are on the list. The head is clean on the outside but a good amount of flaky scale in the water passages.
     
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  19. RyanAK
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    Well the mystery of “what?” may be solved. That leaves “why?”.
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  20. RyanAK
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    Pietenpol was my thought, initially. What I thought was a threaded nipple and cap at the rear of the water passage actually turned out to be some sort of thermocouple. There are another two taps in the jacket on the non-valve side of the head as well. I love stuff like this. If this head could only talk!
     
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  21. HEATHEN
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    I'll take a picture of it when I get home tonight.
     
  22. RyanAK
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    Maybe I shouldn’t be allowed to have nice things… :(
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    I did check, and other than some scratches, no damage. That tree has never dropped limbs there before!
     
  23. Jeff34
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    WOW! That sucks. Glad there was minimal damage. I will say that, less the fallen branches, that pic of the jalopies in the snow is magazine worthy.
     
  24. RyanAK
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    Thanks brother. Should have cleared off the branches and used this for our Christmas card…
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  25. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Excellent photos, They all could be from the time kids built Go-jobs!
    Pay attention to your instincts because you are living in the 1940s!
    When you live the life you are trying to capture, you never get old!
    Great job!
     
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  26. RyanAK
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    Time out from Jalopy projects at work to start on Spencer’s Christmas present. Still need to letter it…
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  27. RyanAK
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    Lettered. Craft paint on cotton work coat canvas doesn’t make for the cleanest work, but a 7 year old with a hot rod soul will be stoked. I’ll clean some of the lettering up and call it done. 9E4B9F17-DA6B-4852-8312-414C34CB3A26.jpeg
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  28. nrgwizard
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    Came out nice, Ryan
    Marcus...
     
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