Technical advice on melted springs

not as bad as you might think...I found the car as "yard art" that was going to be scrapped...it went through the fire then sat out in a field for many years after...to the o/o it was a dream hot rod he got all the chrome redone and it was all set up for a small block chev with a 10 bolt etc. The rear of the car got it the worst which I've cut off and made into yard art...one man's dream turned to ashes....

Well sir in my defence is my 7 yr. old daughter.... my wife takes the money and spends it on her...this might rankle you but I just sold the A roadster I've had since I started here...why? too popular hence too expensive...

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...for-scrap-can-it-rise-from-the-ashes.1328725/ well here it is @Moriarity perhaps it's not HAMB worthy so go ahead and kill the post if you like

Hmm those are quite the accusations...fishing test? how about the research I did (including on the hamb search menu) turned up conflicting information? So I turned to the members here who have always been gracious with their time and knowledge...post counts??? what the heck does that even mean? do I get a lollipop? C'mon @Pist-n-Broke this the first time I have built a hot rod not just collected and stored parts for other people who can afford to build one...instead being a bummer consider yourself lucky you had something better to start with bro!

 

That's really cool @Budget36 ! I searched and searched for exactly this type of info!

 

When the heat sets in today, and I go inside, I’ll scan through the manual I have and see what else will swap.
Do you know which Desoto it is/was?

 

https://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum...for-scrap-can-it-rise-from-the-ashes.1328725/

As I said some info in searches was saying springs could be straightened and heat treated and others said they're scrap...the kind gentlemen of the HAMB have given me a lot more info in this thread than hours of internet...and I trust them! also perhaps someone else can benefit from the post

 

from what I have of the remains it is identical to the Plymouth model 30 U
I'm trying to make this:

 

thanks @Fortunateson ! the local guy Rick closed down the shop and now delivers parts and springs but the old narrow springs have to be custom made... thanks to @Budget36 I may turn up some interchange springs or as @Mimilan suggested have them heat treated and then there's the Hot Rod route as suggested by others which brings up welding which I'm not really set up for at the moment...seems I will have to become an electrician to get a welder going in my shop

 

Okay, now you may have me onboard. As mentioned, a few photos help with a Vision of end results. Having just turned 78 and with a full shop of personal dreams to keep at I don't have time to waste but will always try to coach when time allows. I'm not at all a Restoration guy so for me there is No rule book, just a job at hand. I wasn't trying to be Negative about your project just blunt and to my point so I make a good decision where I spend what little time I do here on the HAMB. Carry on and I'll be watching.

 

While I’m waiting to charge a battery…

29-31 Plymouth (no model designation) uses an 11B
‘30 Chrysler CJ 6
30-32 Dodge DD6

are what I see uses the 11B as well.

 

I'm getting approx. 52 1/4" from the centre of front spring eye bolt to centre of rear shackle upper (frame) mount x 1 3/4" wide

 

I won't make that mistake again...pics or it didn't happen right? @Pistnbroke
Adding somewhat to the degree of difficulty in finding replacements is that the front eye is reversed....

 

I'm not seeing any warping or deformation of the frame...it's made of different steel than the springs which were probably subjected to the tires burning ...the guy junking the car kept the 10 bolt... said it was seized... it may not necessarily mean the bearings themselves melted

 

No it’s not reversed, will get a pic on mine to show you it’s the same

Edit: Well, reversed yes, but made that way I guess is a better answer.

 

Here’s mine

 

You may have just solved this for me...for some reason I thought it was riveted...I have this old trailer sitting around with a set of 1 3/4 spring but the eyes are same front and rear...now to figure out if the length is similar and if the centre bolt comes out in the same spot as the old ones...thanks @Moriarity !

 

looks identical!...that's the '32 Dodge p/u spring?

 

Sorry, those were the fronts I showed, I’ll have to get out back when it cools off and see if I can spot the rear springs in a trailer