It never ceases to amaze me the number of people that buy used tires. Walk around a motorcycle swap meet and the number of used tires are amazing. Even when I was vending, people would ASK for used tires. ON A MOTORCYCLE???? What’s your *** worth? The only way I could maybe see a used tire is on a farm tractor, it might see 15 mph if you run it in road gear. Sent from my iPhone using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
I really believe there are a few reasons for this... Penny pinchers and that by no means is a sign of poverty. Those that can barely afford to put wheels on the road. Which in many cases the used tires are the safest thing on the cars. Those that plain don't feel it matters and it's cheaper. Lots of people buy used cars, fake safety them and fake just about everything else required to drive... Fun times...
I run used tires. I sell used tires. I usually get less than $20 for a tire and that includes putting it on their rim and bubble balancing. I don't guarantee anything except that they are round and black and hold air. Many of the folks who buy tires from me are living paycheck to paycheck and simply don't have the money for high dollar brand new tires. And here over half of the roads are gravel. The road graders break the flinty rocks. And the front tires throw up the sharp rock and the rear catch them and that arrowhead gets stuck in the tread and keeps working until it punctures the tire. Under these conditions New tires with soft rubber and deep tread will go flat faster and not last as long as used tires that have 50% of the tread gone. I advertise on Facebook Yard sale. There are hundreds of used tires and rims for sale on the Marketplace. I placed a set of four tires mounted on factory chrome Ford truck rims for $100 yesterday. Ive already got a dozen messages. My Reply first $100 buys them. I just sold the chrome rims &tires. A guy who lives back in the boonies on a pig trail named 9 mile ridge bought them. He was driving his ford truck. He had two spares with him one a shredded radial and the other a radial that was coming apart. His tires where 15 inch. He wanted the 16 inch rims so he could use the 16 inch takeoffs from his wifes vehicle. He had just put new tires on it. But he stated He will run the tires on the rims until they go bad.
Almost every accident is caused by folks driving too fast for conditions. No matter what occursif your are going slow enough you will not wreck. Slick tires hydro plane easier than deep tread. So you drive slower when its wet. Many folks lack common sense. And some have more money than brains. Used tires are Tested and Proven LOL
I've bought many used tires and wore them out. Like Old Wolf said, sometimes it's all you can afford. I always inspected them the best I could, and looked at the build date. Sometimes you'd get a bad one, but I'd say 98% of the time I got good ones. I bought a set of lug mud tires for an OT Jeep CJ I had, they were from an Al Power truck and had a bunch of plugs in them, but 75% tread. Used that CJ on and off road for several years, they still had good tread when I got rid of it a few years later, and never did one of them go flat. I'll still buy a used tire if I can inspect it first.
I used to get the bias truck tires that where worn down from the school and gas companys. They for the most part had Regroovable printed on them. The school and gas companys couldn't legally run regrooved tires. So I used my JC Whitney regrooving tool and cut new tread in those tires. Sold then to folks pulling gravel trailers and lowboys ect. And they got good service from them. At the Hubcap Jct auction I bought the contents of a building. It was full of used tires lots of them mounted on rims . Some on chrome & mag wheels. Buried under the tires was a big industrial 5 hp 220 volt horizontal air comp. Paid $150. and already recouped my money and made a nickel or two.
Sorry about the hornet nest I stirred up. Please understand that I never said Old wolf was a tweaker, but the folks that dig through our tire pile at work sure look like they are. For the record I have rolled on used tires. It's a practice I try to avoid these days, but sometimes you do what you have to. I still have the take offs from the tire replacement on my OT truck. Just in case something happens to one of the new tire, I've got a backup or four. Biggest problem I see is that most people have no connection to the physical world around them. They don't notice reality until it slaps them in the face. Don't think that's a problem for most of us around here. -Dave
Up here in the ministry DOT inspection 7 years is the life of a tire A nos tire cannot be sold if it’s 3 years past it’s manufacture date from a tire store Retreads and regroves can’t be used on p***enger cars and trucks In my years as an auto tech I’ve seen lots of old tires fall apart, shift belts ,crumble, and blow out due to age. Guys saying a 10 year old tire just because it’s low mileage and “ looks good” is fine has never run on a new set of quality tires. Had a customer years ago with an 80 corvette with a set of 15 or more year old BFG’s on it, the tires looked absolutely mint and perfect, but they were dryer out hockey pucks !! We put a new set of name brand tires on the car and the owner was ecstatic!!! Said the car never drove this good ever!! And that’s the ting also a “ name brand tire” I see so much Chinese junk around “ wanlis” “ nikkies “ “ chungs” etc etc that folks buy for 1/2 of a Michelin or Goodyear or Toyo and then wonder why they only last 20-30000 km’s WHY???? Because you bought ****ing junk ... that’s why ! Buy a name brand tire, have them installed and balanced correctly, keep them clean, rotate them ( if you can)keep your alignment in check and look at them I have had Michelin’s and other quality tires last me 80,000 km plus on my DD cars by just doing what I stayed up top Tires are cheap, compared to everything else a set of tires spread out over 7 years or so is small potatoes
Back in 2000 when I was actively in the repair and tire business. I sold new tires. bought wholesale lots of discontinued tires from wal mart. And bought tires from a distrubuter in Memphis Tenn. And the New tires that lasted longest and held up the beast Where KUMHO brand made in Korea. Michillens have too thin of sidewalls to work in this part of the world. Folks load heavy with feed , firewood ,junk iron ect and the rough roads tear up the sidewalls. Even our paved roads are ****py. 96,000 pound chicken feed trucks running on roads built for 73,280. washboard and potholed patched and patches on top of the patches.
OLDWOLF Yes kumho have been around a while and also toyo I remember when toyo cam out in the mid-late 90’s and were a cheap tire they moved there up up the scale to a quality tire One thing to remember is Michelin, Goodyear etc make rites exclusively for Wal-Mart and Costco. They are no where near the quality of a Michelin etc. That you can buy from a tire store. I’m not saying you HAVE to buy an expensive tire, but a quality tire that fits how you are going to use the vehicle .
Are you saying that a Michelin tire bought at Costco is not the same Michelin tire that is sold at a tire store? If so what is your proof to that? Here say or legitimate proof?
Paying attention to your vehicle and looking at the tires when there is any slight vibration or odd driving condition would help avert a lot of tire hazards, with both new and old tires. And certainly using tires that fit how you are going to drive is excellent advice. I never tried to find out the top speed of my old cars when I had old mismatched tires on them. Having a tire fail at 50mph is one thing, 80mph or more is a heck of a lot more dangerous.
Lots of companies make products specific to a retailer big enough to pay for the privilege. That’s also part of how they can advertise the lowest price on product X. It may look just like something you found elsewhere, but it’ll have a different model number, so it’s not the same. Why wouldn’t Michelin make a Costco specific model of a popular tire? It’s still a Michelin tire, nothing wrong with it, just it’s different somehow from a Michelin from a different store in some way. Could be the same tread mold with a less expensive rubber compound. Maybe derated from V to T, which is fine if you’re driving on the highway at reasonable speeds. Sent from my iPad using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
Just took a pair of over 20 year old radials off my custom 500,one of the fronts went bad a few years ago and one rear started loosing air and the belt was starting to come apart so I got it in time. I had those tires on my 37 Chevy and then they went on the custom 500 and they were used when I put them on the 37,time flies when you are having fun and suprised they lasted this long.
I have Coker bias ply on the roadster that are now just over 6 years old and only done maybe 12,000 miles. I have wondered recently if as they age they get hard and that can contribute to a harsher ride? I run pretty low pressures in these tires. 20psi front and 18-20 psi rear. Anything higher and they really do ride harsh.
Happy reading. If there's a definite answer, I didn't see it. https://www.tire-information-world....e-same-as-those-sold-at-michelin-dealers.html
all this talk about buying new brand tires how many remember the firestone 721 radial.nuff said about new brand name.not the ford fiasco earlier time
The following is from the link posted above. Michelin tires are Michelin tires always by: JohnO Here is an email I sent to Michelin and the response which should put this discussion to rest. Hello John, Thanks for contacting the Michelin Consumer Care Team. My name is Toni and I look forward to helping you out. You’ve been ***igned case number 13457440. This will allow my team to quickly pull your claim details if any further questions arise. Let’s see how we can help. Regarding your email stating: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have used Michelin tires for years, and usually buy at Costco. However there is a discussion raging about whether or not Michelin makes tires especially for "big box stores" that are different (lower quality?) from those sold by independent tire dealers, even though the tires have the exact same name and description. Which is true? Thank you. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- All the Michelin tires are made from the same mold and material regardless which authorized dealers are selling our product. We do not make a lower grade quality for a specific dealer. Our tires come with a 6 year Standard Warranty on Material and Workmanship. Please be ***ured any new Michelin tire you purchase is made from the same high quality mold. If we can ***ist you further, please respond to this email or call us at 866-866-6605 (toll-free) between 8:00 a.m. and 8:00 p.m. EST Monday through Saturday. We appreciate your business and thank you for choosing Michelin. Sincerely, Toni Consumer Care Department Certified Michelin Product Expert Read more: https://www.tire-information-world....e-sold-at-michelin-dealers.html#ixzz5QcZLMmWM
This topic is tiring... Now that I got that outta my system, who's running any old Denmans? Fans of the tire run them for decades with no worries and few if any age related failures. In my youth I was told the old Denman "way" was to build collector car tires with heavy truck processes. Big trucks run 6 figure mileage and their tires are pretty dadgum durable, but lest's face it, they're not pretty. I actually have a pair of big Denman 16" whitewalls that were stored in a dark dry corner and covered for who-knows-how-long. They're like 8.00-8.20 16s, not a crack or mark in em, still "soft" or at least as soft as such a big tire can be. No date codes so they're old. Now I wouldn't run these in the 24 hrs of Le Mans, and I wouldn't put em on an 80 MPH DD, but on a casual use collector car I'd guess they're worth another 5-10 years at moderate use. I'm sure most would drop em at the recycle place but they're just about new. Can't do it, good tires, but as had been whipped near ****** above intended use. Your results may vary, no warranty expressed or implied, see your retailer for details, supplies limited...
My dad bought a new 66 ford car. The tires that came with it where US Royal. Really cheap 2 ply tires. the didn't last a month on that heavy galaxie, He was working in Indiana helping construct the Bethelem steel mill. And made the 500 mile commute between Arkansas quite often. He bought over the years several new firestone 500,s bias ply tires and when they got bald. We took them to the local country store and sent them to be recapped. About half where capped with street tread and 1/2 mud and snow tread. He ran those on a 64 chevy pickup and farm trailers ect. I don't remember any of those recaps failing.
As far as the Costco and Wal-Mart tires go Yes a Michelin is a Michelin and a Goodyear is a good year. But Costco does sell lower end Michelin’s that can ONLY be purchased at Costco I know this as working at jaguar we had a lot of customers that did not want to buy Michelin X-ones ( same tire and size as in new Lincoln’s at the time ( 1998-2003) And opted for a Costco Michelin of the same size but about 1/2 the cost. Most if not all of those customer suffered from vibration and noise issues. Switched over to a Michelin X-one and problem solved. Not saying the Costco tires were ****, but obviously not if the same quality of a higher end Michelin
There are two separate en***ies here...Radials and Bias Plys. The Radial age deal does not apply the same to Bias Plys...that makes this discussion let's say....complicated and awkward.
48 I just copied my earlier post of Quoted text from Cokers FAQ...one question which would be good to know is what is life of tread...I am sure it doesn't mean bald. I would think it is a thickness/depth. That may also differ from Radials as well. The hardness of your tires may be climate related as well. So many dynamics involved... Perhaps your shocks are aging too...it may be a combination of things. The copied... Bias Ply different animal DOT or not. Coker says in warranty quoted... "Our tires are guaranteed to be free from defects in workmanship and materials for the life of the tread." NO timeframes specified...But from a Mechanically inclined point of view do periodic inspections on your own looking forcracking and anything else su****ious as it may prevent tragedy. This is actually a bonus for the Bias crowd as they are not cheap but give long life expectancy as most don't drive huge miles on these so 10 years plus is not a stretch. https://www.cokertire.com/antique-tire-wheel-warranty
I have been buying Michelins at Costco exclusively for 30 years. Not cheap but never had an vibration issue, failure or didn't get the expected tread life. They always have to order them so I doubt they are not the same as a regular tire store would sell. I would tend to believe that Walmart's Sams Club may sell a lower quality version though.
I think everything Wal Mart sells has something wrong with it. Probably every tire & battery they sell should be branded BLEM.
As tire mishaps go I myself have not experienced one ( knock on wood). Saturday however my father had one involving his convertible. He had missed the turn to go into a show we were headed to and had to turn around. When he got to the end of the drive, lo and behold the left rear tire popped. I forget what brand it was but he replaced it with a Michelin. Sent from my iPhone using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
What's the DOT date on it...just curious...again this was a good news story in that nothing was harmed except the pocketbook...
I don’t remember off the top of my head. But I’ll look at it this weekend and post a photo. Sent from my iPhone using The H.A.M.B. mobile app
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