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Discussion in 'Off Topic Hot Rods & Customs' started by McDeuce, May 21, 2025.

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  1. Tow Truck Tom
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    Amen brother I wrongly assumed that there was some personal issue here.
    Instead of this Kookie HollyWood sniper shit. Time to call it in.
     
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  2. wvenfield
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    If tire companies want me to swap out tires they need to make them where I can afford to.
     
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  3. LOL! Tires are cheap now when compared to the past.

    Ben
     
  4. Ryan
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    Feels like this thread’s heating up in a way that doesn’t make much sense to me.

    If you’re a “law and order” type—rigid rules, sharp edges—you probably wouldn’t be all that fond of me. And if that’s the case, you’re probably not gonna like the way I run this joint either.

    We’re not big on radial tires around here. And we’re even less into folks trying to tell other folks how to live, build, or drive.

    Hot rods are punk rock. Build your thing, run your thing, and let others do the same.

    Also, slinging insults and bickering online is a damn waste of time—and brain cells.
     
  5. Moriarity
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    yeah....
     
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  8. I had some firestone radials with good tread start to shimmy and throw chunks when they were 17 years old. They weren't weather checked at all. So, I get the 10 year radial rule, and have heard horror stories about them grenading. But 6 years? Pshhh, maybe if you live in extreme conditions.

    But bias plys? Shoooot, if they hold air, send it!
     
  9. Sharpone
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    I don’t think so!
     

  10. Thank you, sir, thank you.

    Ben
     
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  11. Ned Ludd
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    I've made a very similar connection in the past. Hot rodding is intrinsically, though often unconsciously, subversive.
     
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  12. Ryan
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    If that makes me the odd man out, so be it—I’ll die on this hill with a wrench in one hand and a dog-eared copy of "The History of Hot Rodding" in the other.

    To me—and to a hell of a lot of folks I’ve known—hot rodding was never about polish or permission. It was rebellion in its purest form. Young punks taking factory steel and bending it to their will with nothing but know-how, nerve, and an eye for speed.

    And if that’s not what this whole thing has been about, then I’ve spent the last three decades getting it all wrong—while building this joint, swapping stories with many of the greats, and learning from the very people who lit the fuse to begin with.

    I dunno man... I don't think I'm wrong. From my perspective, you either don't understand punk rock or have really misunderstood hot rodding and its routes.
     
  13. trevorsworth
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    I think you're the one misreading the room compadre. Citing chatgpt... lol.
     
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  14. There are many types of rebellion. You're conflating the rebellion of 1950s car culture (in modern times) with the rebellion of punk rock, which is mostly about sociopolitical rebellion. Is the HAMB a place to make rebellious sociopolitical statements? No, it's against the rules to make sociopolitical statements here (I was banned for a week for making a mild comment in a Memorial Day thread). Are hot rodders and customizers making rebellious sociopolitical statements with their cars? If yes, for either of these questions, please specify what rebellious sociopolitical statements they're making.
     
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  15. Ryan
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    You’re using ChatGPT to define punk rock—which is already a bit hilarious—and conveniently skipping over the fact that “punk rock” often gets tossed around as shorthand for rebellion in general.

    But look, if you want to talk history, hot rodders have always been tangled up in social issues, whether they meant to be or not. I’ve spent the last five years working with a researcher writing a book that traces exactly that—how hot rodding was born from defiance, met head-on by cops, lawmakers, and a public that saw it as nothing more than hooliganism on wheels.

    Hell, in 1955, Reverend Billy Graham said American boys should be forced into the military at 17—because otherwise, they’d fall victim to “hot rod gangs and the like.”

    Guys like Wally Parks—who, by the way, mentored me—understood this and worked to preserve the culture while giving it some legitimacy. But don’t kid yourself into thinking he was a “law and order” guy in a pressed shirt. Wally came from the same ragged edge we all did. He just knew how to play the long game.

    I’ve lived and breathed this stuff for over 30 years. Broken through the 10,000-hour ceiling. Interviewed legends. Dug through the Library of Congress. Read thousands of articles. Taken tens of thousands of notes. If you don’t want to take my word for it, cool. But if you want to throw punches, at least do the homework first. Asking questions of ChatGPT isn't gonna magically give you your bones man.

    And yeah, we don't allow politics on the HAMB. Never have. I can thank, in large part, Wally Parks for being able to keep it that way.

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  16. Ryan
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    "Mechanized Suicide"

    God damn... We like to think of the golden era and all that... and how it's all gone to shit since. But man, people were both cruel and stupid back then as well.

    Gives me a great idea for a t-shirt though!
     
  17. I didn't use AI to discuss punk rock ethos, and I'm not "throwing punches." The rebellion of punk rock and the rebellion of 1950s car culture (as expressed from ~2000-2025) have nothing to do with each other. Again, if you disagree, specify what rebellious sociopolitical statements are being made by HAMBers and compare them to 1980s punk rock.
     
  18. This forum is about punk rock and punk ethos?

    I quoted AI about tires.
     
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  19. Moriarity
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    @Ryan the trouble with some of the members here understanding what hot rodding is and was all about is the fact that there are a bunch of street rodders here. and yes there is a huge difference between street rodders and hot rodders.....
     
  20. Ryan
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    Yeah, I don’t see it the same way. I think you’re missing some key context—about punk rock, about how I write, and about hot rodding in general. But hey, no hard feelings. I’m ready to move on.

    In other news, I think this needs a lot of work:

    hotrod.jpg

    Could be super cool though...
     
  21. Do you think that hot rodding and customizing cars has anything to do with punk rock?
     
  22. trevorsworth
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    Yeah.... it totally does. Whether you're a Stray Cats kinda guy or more of a Reverend acolyte the rockabilly and psychobilly movements are considered punk counterculture... and those scenes cannot be divorced from the hot rod revival that got us here.

    The more you post (and the more you lean on Google's AI to think for you) the more obvious it is you have no idea what you're talking about.
     
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  23. Moriarity
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    man, leave it alone.... Hot Rodding and Customizing is about rebellion against mass produced cookie cutter transportation....
     
  24. Ryan
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    This whole thing’s getting weird, man. I was about to head out for lunch and suddenly thought, “Yeah, I’ve got something to say.”

    So I sat down, hammered out four paragraphs on history, context, the flaws of humans, all that noise… and then just stared at it for a second.

    Decided I didn’t feel like lighting a match today. I’ve got stuff to do. :)
     
  25. trevorsworth
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    Just put me down for a mechanized suicide shirt.
     
  26. Mr. Sinister
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    With the way everything is made as cheap as possible these days, I don't even trust a quality tire past 10 years.
     
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  27. 41 GMC K-18
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    Okay, okay ! I just want to put in my 2 cents before this thread gets locked.

    The tire issue, it is what it is!
    My dad owned and ran a wrecking yard, and car and truck repair business in the 60's/70's, life was much more simple and the manufacture of tires was completely different back then.

    Times have changed and a ton of shit is different now! Just a fact.

    But on the issue of what @Ryan said in regards to old school hot rodding was "PUNK ROCK" way back when, he got it right, and that isn't just me agreeing with Ryan.

    You all will have to forgive the eternal smart-ass in me, but with the advent of YouTube, and certainly not the false info bucket of "ChatAI", here is a little history lesson as seen and heard of the question that was asked of "Johnnie", and his answer was spot on!


    Thanks from Dennis, and enjoy that spirit, that was captured by the makers of the film "The Wild One"
     
  28. Moriarity
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    including the flaws of humans and it was only 4 paragraphs... hahahaha
     
  29. Sharpone
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    Me too, I’m going to conform I’ll take one XL. How we go from changing tires every X years to punk rock I’ll never figure out! but I’m fucking loving it.
    Your Wisconsin Hot Rod Hoodlum Local 283 Steward!:cool:
    Dan
     
  30. You got that right.... For too many it's become a spectator sport. They pee their pants if you jump on it and squeal the tires.

    Goddammit, it's my car and big brother needs to stay out of my shit...
     
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