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Motion Pictures American Dreams set in the Summer of 1959

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by V8WHEELSOFTHUNDER, Apr 2, 2013.

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  1. I'm looking for information on Hot Rods of 1959

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  2. Who were the Top Hot Rod Builders of 1959

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  3. What Music would you like to see in this film from this year 1959

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  1. V8WHEELSOFTHUNDER
    Joined: Nov 12, 2012
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    V8WHEELSOFTHUNDER
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    from England


    I'm new to the Hot Rod World, I've have own plans for the future to hopefully build a 32 three window Deuce powered by a 400ci V12 Jag engine pushing out a respectable 500bhp to 750bhp depending on the tune, This could be some years away, as I lost my job taking care of my sick wife after an infection from surgery and depression after she had our first baby, our sweet little girl named Poppy, my boss fired me even though I couldn't leave my wife and new born baby at the time, what Bleep! Bleep! Bleeping! Bleep! S***bag of a boss!

    Anyway alls not lost, its made me re-evaluate my life and my goals, I've been writing on a off some years now, its my dream to direct one of Screen Plays set in the Summer of 1959 the film is called American Dreams set in the Summer of August 1959, set over 3 days and 3 nights, about a young Custom Hot Rod Builder, by the name of Johnny Vincent,and his Fathers Hot Rod Shop called American Dreams. Its a story about the Rock & Roll years, and how the Custom Hot Rods came about, at a time when music played a big part in these kids lives when people were young and care free, when every new day was an adventure waiting to be experienced, with new Rock & Roll artists with new songs, with a whole new style, which came along and changed the world forever, a time, when they had nothing but their friends, Rock & Roll Music, Fast Cars, and a whole lota dreams, its about those summer nights you don't want to end, driving to the coast just to watch the Sun rise, with the music playing on the radio, no mp3's or CD players, but they didn't care, for they made their own music in life, when things were more simple, they went out there and lived their lives, in a time when everything was new, when Custom Hot Rods ruled the roads to the sound of American V8's Rolling Wheels of Thunder, "This is American Dreams. If you listen to this track The Wanderer by Dion & The Belmonts as you read the opening Scene below. http://youtu.be/_NybY4V4bK0

    The opening scene of the film opens up with Johnny V telling us his story of the Summer of August 1959. My name is Johnny Vincent and this is my story and my memories, its about 3 days and 3 nights, that have stayed with me for the rest of my life, its about those early day's of Hot Rods, Rock & Roll, Beautiful girls, and Summers days, and Warm Summer nights, its about the freedom of the open road, and the fast cars we drove back in the Summer of 59. This is my American Dream!

    Then the camera, shot from an ariel view follows the Little Black 1932 Ford 5-Window Deuce Coupe, its 7 am in the morning, as the camera comes in close up alongside the little Deuce, the Sound Track The Wanderer plays by Dion & The Belmonts comes in loud in the background, the camera then moves in close, then in one take, it moves into the car which looks seamless, them we see the inside of the car and hear that great American V8, then a few seconds later we go to the next shot of the car coming fast down the road, then Johnny slows down using the gears only blipping the throttle with before each change down, before slowly pulling into Cathy's Diner.

    I’m Looking to make some good friends here who can help me make this dream a come to life, set in the Summer of 1959,
    I would like to keep this as authentic as possible, with some of the most awesome drive sequences and amazing sound track boot! I’m looking to find help with getting the cars built for the film to how they may have looked, if a innovative young Hot Rod builder of these times would have built his car, I’m looking to find and cast the actors, and put a film crew together along with financing the whole thing, the more people that get to hear about my Film project, the more chances I have for getting this up and running!



    Ride the wild winds, catch the thunder clouds, let the storm p*** over you, have no fear, lift your head high, feel the warm rain upon your face, feel the power of your standing grace.

    Written by
    Brian Robson
     
  2. racemad55
    Joined: Dec 14, 2005
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    You lost me after the jag engine idea in the deuce.
     
  3. hotroddon
    Joined: Sep 22, 2007
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    Set in the summer of 69 and a Jag V12. Doesn't work, the V12 didn't come out until 71 and American Hot Rodders wouldn't stick one in a 32 Ford until ...... ummm.... let me think ...... NEVER
     
  4. V8WHEELSOFTHUNDER
    Joined: Nov 12, 2012
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    V8WHEELSOFTHUNDER
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    from England

    This film is set in 1959 with cars being built to the way they were built at this time. The 32 Deuce with Jag V12 is not for the film, it will be my car. Hot Rods are all about building something new and innovative putting your own personal ideas into a project, whether it be using a Ford engine, Chevy, or Jag engine, using old styles or new, sure everyone has the right to there opinion to someones build project on how its looks etc, that's their freedom, each Hot Rod build is unique to that person, whether they come from the states, or England, Australia, or wherever, building something new and exciting is what its all about, its about creating something, that comes from the heart of each person, just as my idea for my Hot Rod Build Project, using a Jag engine is different yes, people have already used old American V12's in the 32's They sound awesome and look great, my idea is to make it look awesome, so the engine is a work of art in itself, and the sound will be even more special, something I think other people would agree once they heard this on full song through 12 pipes, My inspiration for the build theme behind this project comes from the P51 and Spitfire fighter planes with their awesome Rolls Royce Merlin Engine, its about re-creating the awesome sound these planes made with this V12 engine, but also re-creating the Polished Aluminum look of the P51. This car will be tribute to these brave men who flew these planes, and to those who came home after the war and decided to build Hot Rods and race them.

    I just want to make a great feel good film, more about Hot Rods than the Music, the Music in the movie is to make people feel good, and maybe bring back memories for some people of these great times, I'm not getting into the history of Rock n Roll, just playing great Music to go along with these times about what kids would listen to in their cars in 1959. I appreciate any input in this area, as to the best tracks in the Summer of August 1959 and earlier.

     
  5. BORRACHO13
    Joined: Feb 6, 2008
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    BORRACHO13
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    from Menifee CA

    Too much writee no makee sensee
     
  6. Jigger
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  7. Deuces
    Joined: Nov 3, 2009
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    Deuces

    Tell your story to someone in Hollywood.... Maybe they'll bite!
    Hell, it be better than the trash they're puttin' out these days....:rolleyes:
     
  8. HOTRODPRIMER
    Joined: Jan 3, 2003
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    You are preaching to the wrong crowd!

    The Hamb is a Traditional Hot Rod site,,what you are proposing with your build is far from traditional,,the basic concept with us is geared to pre '65.

    If you look around the Hamb I'm sure you will see a lot of guys here that are from England and could teach you a lot about traditional cars,,some are very knowledgeable.

    Your visionary Deuce sounds more like a street rod which don't get the Hamb collective all warm and fuzzy,,it's fine if that's what you want but don't expect the guys here to approve.

    As far as your idea for a movie,,it can be done,,Faith Grangers "Deuce of Spades" is proof positive it can be done with enough hard work and determination. HRP
     
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  9. F&J
    Joined: Apr 5, 2007
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    Nice of you to tell us yokels what a hot rod really means.



    your movie will **** too, you will change stuff all around and pretend you lived it.


    here's a song from back in the day: "we fired our guns and the british kept a comin, there wasn't half as many as there were awhile ago, we fired once more and they begun to run, .....

    .. oh and speaking of brits building stuff with merlins...how about that Lancaster bomber you all designed with 2 engines, that could only lift off, if it was empty...and then added 2 more engines and called it a sucsess.:rolleyes:
     
  10. HOTRODPRIMER
    Joined: Jan 3, 2003
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    Battle of New Orleans,,by Johnny Horton

    <iframe width="640" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/LsRK3DNoa_Q?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
     
  11. Deuces
    Joined: Nov 3, 2009
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    Deuces

    Hey dude.... That's hittin' below the belt!... How about mellowing out a bit???
     
  12. Tnomoldw
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    Wow ! Have you been drinking?:eek: Put the Beatles in it !
     

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  13. Deuces
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    Deuces

    Nope! Not during the week anyway...:rolleyes:
     
  14. F&J
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    Awesome video...and from the exact year...1959.
     
  15. tfeverfred
    Joined: Nov 11, 2006
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    I love how people redefine what hotrodding is in order to fit their aganda.


    And that poll is stupid. What the hell are we being polled on?
     
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  16. HOTRODPRIMER
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    Yeah, I remember being 9 years old and singing it to the top of my lungs for a week or so,,,my mother threatened to kill me if I did stop singing it!

    I grew up in the Bible Belt,,,strong on the belt!:D HRP
     
  17. Pops1532
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    The car you want to build isn't HAMB friendly so you won't get much approval here.

    As for your movie idea....What is your target audience? Seems to me the people that would appreciate the movie the most are the ones that were kids with hot rods (or the kids that wished they had hot rods) at the time your movie portrays. Those folks are in their 70's now. Folks that age aren't big movie goers. It's a neat idea but you're 20-25 years too late.
     
  18. V8WHEELSOFTHUNDER
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    from England

    Where was the P51 before it had its Merlin engine fitted, it was about working together that made the P51 so great, I'll not list all the things Britain invented which changed the world, first computer, fastest land speed record, breaking the speed of sound in the process, the jet engine, Steam trains, The first vertical take off fighter plane, The Harrier Jump Jet! Sure each built great things on both sides of the water.

    This film is about letting a new generation of people see what it was like back then, and maybe bring back a few good memories for those who lived it, anyone confused about the 32 Deuce with Jag V12, this car isn't for the film! its a build project I'd like to take on in the future.... The film will stay true to its year 1959 simple as that!
     
  19. Tnomoldw
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  20. This thread reminds me of all the Deuce of Spades threads....
     
  21. tfeverfred
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    Yep. I'm surprised it's lasted this long. :confused:
     
  22. I'll get started on the vanity shots with monstrous watermarks if you get started on some "tech articles".... :)
     
  23. cool57
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    I like your ambition. Some here are a bit harsh. Anachronisms can ruin a good film or book. "The Wanderer" was released in '61. Keep at it.
     
  24. A.D.D.
    Joined: Dec 9, 2011
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    Hello there,


    Don't let all these hard *** Hot Rod guys piss in your Wheaties........ :rolleyes:


    I Get it!

    You WANT to build a Hot Rod with a Jag 12 cylinder for yourself......

    YOU ARE writing a screen play that takes place in 1959.



    Just my 2 cents:

    Cool idea and great visualization. I can "See" what you are talking about. But WHY 1959 in the US?

    Why not write what you know? How about a kid in some small town in the UK back in '59 or '61? Say he finds a Model A coupe or a '32 ford that was imported to the UK and tries like hell to build a Hot Rod like he saw in an American car magazine? Maybe his Dad was an American GI and he is obsessed with the USA. Music, cars, culture, etc.

    You could tie in some Cafe Racer culture which is where all of us American's LUST after YOUR UK culture.

    You could have a hard luck kid with no Dad and use stories and situations from your family background or personal experience to tell "REAL" stories steeped in fiction instead of fiction steeped in fiction (which is NEVER accurate down to the details).

    If you decide to go with an "American Dream" type story....

    There are a few things to consider:

    1.) Location. A small town in Alabama was a MUCH different place in 1959 than the "VALLEY" in Los Angeles.

    2.) The story. WHAT is the story? American Graffitti was about a bunch of kids from different backgrounds graduating from High School into "Adult" life.... with all of the fears and changes in American Culture happening in 1962 (end of the 50's, music changing, Muscle cars, Vietnam war looming, etc).

    3.) Historical accuracy. EVERYONE goes through the SAME STUFF.....the devil is in the details. Everyone's experience differs slightly, but the hard facts are hard facts. What did a real soda from a fountain taste like from the drug store? How much was a burger? Realistically, what could a "Kid" afford at the time and place your story happens?

    4.) Is it interesting? Not everyone likes the same stuff. A bunch of shiny Hot Rods and old Rock and Roll aren't enough to "Sell" a story. Greasers vs the haircuts, pregnant prom queens, tragic death, horrible car crashes, Young people with something to prove, having fun, LOVE, lessons learned.....that's what most Nostalgic movies are about and they sell.

    ABSOLUTELY my opinion to be taken with a grain of salt.



    BUT.....don't EVER let ANYONE tell you that you can't do it. More than likely they are just AFRAID to do it themselves.
     
  25. F&J
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    I can get even harsher..I get dam well tired of posers re-inventing history....


    Fathers hot rod shop???? called American Dreams??? This is pure horse poo.

    That business name would not have been used back then...and..there were no "hot rod shops" (like the ones today) back then. Yes, speed shops sometimes had a service shop, or both could be run out of a typical corner gas station.

    The reason I jumped all over it, it that your mindset won't be right. You have proved that already with the business name, which has an ultra modern Y2K spin to it, and the notion of Hot rod shops existing in the same form as they do today.
     
  26. V8WHEELSOFTHUNDER
    Joined: Nov 12, 2012
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    from England

    Every person will have their own ideas about what a Hot Rod means to them, tell everyone here what it means then! hey I don't pretend to know everything about Hot Rods, like everyone here we all started out with nothing! We each learn new things everyday, but please feel free to tell me what it means for you, I'm interested!

    Don't get me into talking War stuff you don't want to go down that line, but since you can't get your facts right about the Lancaster, then here is History lesson No1. The Lancaster Bomber could carry 12,OOO lbs of bombs had a Range of 1,730 miles, Top speed 275 mph at 15,000 feet with a Ceiling Height 24,500 feet, here's the video of its History I suggest you watch all of it and I mean all of it! Then look up the History of the Dam busters, these guys were so skilled and a bit crazy too, they were flying under telegraph pole wires trying to out do each practicing low level flying, one time they were flying at 30 feet above the sea,when one of the crew said he's a bit low isn't he? when just then another guy flew underneath him, one guy was said to have flew this huge aircraft like a fighter plane.
    http://youtu.be/PrkN8pzpQ6Q

    There were Brave Brave Men from both sides UK and US. I'm one of those people who apreciate what your guys and our guys did for all of us and our countries, more men were lost in the air than at sea and land.... brave men each and everyone of them! and thanks to the Merlin engine and great pilots who flew the P51, the Merlin made the P51 a formidable fighter plane, the P51, like the Lancaster evolved into legends of the Sky!
     
  27. HOTRODPRIMER
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    Right plane,,wrong airport. HRP
     
  28. Gman0046
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    The mind is a terrible thing.
     
  29. V8WHEELSOFTHUNDER
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    from England


    Thank you my friend,that's kind of you, like I say I'm learning all the time, I appreciate all the help and advise I'm given, that song "The Wanderer" is of such importance to the opening Scene of the film, I may have to change the year to 1961, it maybe of an advantage to other parts of the film later on? But if anyone can come up with an even greater track for this opening scene in 1959, with the Deuce thundering down the road I like to hear it! thanks once again, when I do get this film made, which maybe some years away I'd like to invite you and other members to its opening. All the best.
     
  30. its your dream MAKE IT HAPPEN

    did a lot of mine took 50years for some of them
     

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