Somehow I think the hamb trophy will probably go to the car that isn't sitting on an $85k display. It's the display people who ruined car shows...
I like it. Would everyone be able to vote right away? Probably, although it might be interesting to limit it to members in good standing for the past year to prevent latecomers from piling on. Sometimes you have to think like a terrorist to prevent them from acting. What do we do if the big money starts overt advertising? What if one of the rush-timeline-build-up reality shows starts lobbying for their cars? What if the Boyd, or Chip coalitions start mentioning the TJJ website and plead with fans to "vote for us" and get their cars voted in?
It takes a lot of money to create a winner, but this winner is obviously a large checkbook with giant billet wheels. The proportions are off and it just doesn't look "right." Count me in on the vote. CJ
I like the idea....... and I would definietly push it. On the trophy however.... If you try to do something that is bigger or rename it to the effect of most "worlds most"... all you are doing is getting into their pissin match. If you do a trophy, it needs to be something different, cool and indicative ofwhat the award really is... dont take anything away from it.
Hey Ryan, What's this I hear about an article about the HAMB Most Beautiful Roadster Award,in the Hemmings Weekly News? Know anything about this? Has anybody read it?
Here it is amigo. Street Rods and Hot Rods AMBR pick causes controversy It seems as though a revolt is brewing against the organizers of the Grand National Roadster Show. While Internet forums typically foster much grousing, very few of the desktop grousers actually make any effort to confront the source of their problems. When the ranks of the traditional hot rodders bristled at the selection of another beige street rod as Americas Most Beautiful Roadster recently, though, Ryan Cochran of the Jalopy Journal decided to take action. Cochran has already built the H.A.M.B., the Internets largest traditional hot rodding forum, and developed three annual traditional hot rodding events the H.A.M.B. Drags, the Hot Rod Revolution and the Hot Rod Cinematic. Rather than start his own indoor car show, as some have suggested, he preferred a course that wouldnt discount the heritage of the GNRS. We already have a Grand National Roadster Show and the history that comes with it, Cochran wrote. Why throw that away? Instead, I propose we create and hand out our own award to the entry that we feel actually meets the standards of the cars that made this show grand to begin with. There will be no connection with the promoters, no politics, no check sheets, and no bullsh--. We will be mavericks with a trophy and a purpose, and the winner will be the most beautiful damn roadster in America. Starting next year, The Jalopy Journal will no longer recognize the promoters pick as Americas Most Beautiful roadster. Instead, we will recognize our own. Grousing, of course, ensued. - By Daniel Strohl
"Internet's largest traditional hotrodding forum..." That says it all!!! You can't argue with that...Seems the boss is bigger than we thought...HE'S WORLD WIDE!!!!!! "grousing''? WTF! Definition anyone...
COMPLAIN...........or fat/plump game bird Would be cool to have a Blackie Gejeian deal for true/inspired Customs and Hot Rods somewhere....
Covert is always much more fun. Having a "side show award" at an existing show is soooo much cooler...
Hemmings WOW R-e-c-o-g-n-i-t-i-o-n, How much can the H.A.M.B. stand. Reminds me of an old joke. its the Super Bowl, 3 seconds left in the third overtime, no time outs left, score tied at 27-all, the ball is on the 5 yard line and its fourth down and goal to go. The first string quarter back is out with a broken arm and the kicker has a pulled groin. Just as the second string quarter back starts the call, I streak down the middle of the field-----0ne hundred twenty thousand people in the stands and thirty million TV watchers around the world stand as one and yell, GET OFF THE FIELD ASSHOLE Now thats R-E-C-O-G-N-I-T-I-O-N.
When it was called the Oakland Roadster Show you had to drive 'em in and drive 'em out. Sunday night after the awards they fired up and most drove home. That was the highlight! When they stopped that something was lost. And as unpopular as it is to say here or among the rich guys, Ala Kart was the beginning of what we have today. Yea,it's an icon but look at what came after compared what came before. If you need an award to feel good about yourself or your car you wont feel good nearly as often as the guy driving down the road. That being said, recognition from like minded folks that you know and respect is always a cool thing!
A complaining, whining, fat, bird. That's it, we can call it the Golden Grouse Award. One question? How will rust factor into judging?
It seems some people think they have the Award pegged already. I think HAMBers will be able to select the right Car for the right Reasons. An Aesthetically pleasing, well built Car, done with a sense of History...
"I think HAMBers will be able to select the right Car for the right Reasons. An Aesthetically pleasing, well built --Award--, done with a sense of History"
The conflict added to the contest by modern judging's attempt at subjectivity is the crux of the problem...judging "most beautiful" by assigning numerical values to mods to individual parts and then adding to judge the whole is just inherently wrong, and likely the whole notion of subjectivity is wrong here; community (define that???) consensus is likely the right way...and mebbe Ryan has that pegged, for our slice of the community. Our problem will be in defining how we judge both beauty and sense of history WITHOUT narrowing the standard to just the most severely correct period rod, as the show is obviously not intended as simply an attempt to recreate 1953...and any award based on that approach would be dismally boring to most. Imagine a real beauty contest done by ISCA standards... "Toenail polish flawless??" Toenail judge: "8 1/2 points!" "Nostril hairs properly frenched?" Nostril judge: "9!" Three days later..."Whoa!! That adds up to 874 points! She must be cute!!"
So is this going to still happen? Someone brought it up in Malcoms thread and I remember what a good idea it was. Brick
Great idea! Yosemite Sam has his own award for Detroit. It is now almost as coveted as the Riddler itself. If you start this HAMB award it too will become an iconic symbol. I will be at the show with an AMBR contender and would consider it a great honor to be picked... Please don't ask...
You guys think I bluff? Never. It's on... And I actually spoke to John Buck (promoter of the show) about my idea. He wasn't all that excited about it initially, but I think we are cool now. He sounded like a pretty good guy. In any case, get ready to vote...
I take a few days off and when I come back I find that a Revolution has been started! People are starting to buck the trends and think for themselves. Hot Damn!! It's about time! Let the process begin, I'm in.
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