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Technical And yet, another flywheel question ..

Discussion in 'Traditional Hot Rods' started by Model A Mark, May 14, 2023.

  1. Model A Mark
    Joined: Apr 30, 2008
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    Model A Mark
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    Hey guys,
    I got this Weber flywheel that was supposed to fit a Chrysler 354 Hemi but it doesn't.
    It is to big around to fit inside the blocks bellhousing circumference, not sure I used the correct word here, buy yu get the idea.
    I was told it may be a big block Chrysler, 440 maybe ?
    I don't know, but Id like to rehome it and I dont wanna mislead someone, kinda like I was..

    Thanks as always for the help ...
     

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  2. Re- chrome a flywheel?
     
  3. 14.65 ish with EDIT!! 146 tooth
    Diameter size and tooth count will help identify
    IMG_1526.jpeg
    146 tooth 14.6ish diameter 8 bolt flywheel on my 331 hemi.
    No bellhousing issues.
     
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  4. hemihotrod66
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    It isn't a big block Chrysler,,,, They have 6 bolt crankshafts....Hemis have 8 bolt....
     
  5. And what bell housing are you using?
    Any pics?
    Early hemis came with a couple different flywheels
    I think a 140ish tooth count for the first few years then a 172 tooth count.
     
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  6. Mark ,
    What kind of bellhousing are you using ?
    The 143 teeth count is correct for an RB Mopar with an 11 inch clutch .
    I have a 440 with an 8 bolt crank,,,it’s a Hemi crank ,,but it still works .

    All the Hemi 8 bolt patterns are the same,,,,,early cranks used a flywheel register machined into the backside of the flywheel .
    RB Hemi used a register machined into the crank flange .
    The flywheel you have ,,has what looks like a register on the backside,,it should fit an early model .
    If the bellhousing is correct .

    The small blocks,,LA,, used a 130 tooth wheel,,,,and a smaller bellhousing .

    Tommy
     
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  7. Model A Mark
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    Model A Mark
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    right now I have a wilcap adapter with a sbf bellhousing on it, the flywheel i have from wilcap is a 10"
    When I put bolts in the back of the block, in the bellhousing bolt holes, this weber fw won't fit inside the bolt pattern, thats the problem,
    I appreciate the reply's
     
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  8. Looks like it is a hemi flywheel
    Just not the one you need
     
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  9. Model A Mark
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    Thats what I think too Anthony
    Just aint sure what lol
     
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  10. Shouldn’t have any problem selling it
     
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  11. Model A Mark
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    Problem is Anthony is dont know what to list it as .
     
  12. Looks hemi.
    Has the recessed 8 hole mounting
    Count the teeth
    Make sure it fits your crank. Than ya should know
     
  13. Model A Mark
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    It was advertised hemi, and the center does fit the crank but the outside diameter of the flywheel won't sit inside the bellhousing.
    I dont know what it fits.
     
  14. It fits a Hemi,,,,,,but not a small block Ford bellhousing .
    To my knowledge,,,,,,no Mopar Hemi ever came with a Ford bell .

    Simple as that,,,it is a Hemi flywheel .
    The Wilcap adapter came with a 10 inch flywheel because it will clear the Ford bell .

    Tommy
     
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  15. Big time EDIT. Mine is 146 tooth. 172 were also used
    I’ve seen 143 tooth 8 bolt mopar FWs
    130 tooth flywheels are used with some adapters.
    Your engine didn’t come from the factory with a ford bell, so I guess ya need ti use smaller one.
    that doesn’t make it not a hemi flywheel. Just too big to fit a ford bell housing

    but is kinda confusing if it’s a 143 tooth count.
     
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  16. Budget36
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    Is there a larger Ford BH? Or can the BH be clearances to work maybe?
     
  17. gene-koning
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    If your going to buy another bellhousing, why not just buy one that fits the motor?

    Hemi and budget are mutually exclusive terms, unless "budget" means bigger money numbers then it does to me.
     
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  18. banjorear
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    Is there are part number anywhere on the flywheel?
     
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  19. ekimneirbo
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    This won't tell you what you need but may help identify what you have.
    Flywheels x1 001.jpg

    If you have a friend with a lathe or a milling machine and rotary table.......You could remove the ring gear and have it turned down to accept the correct diameter ring gear for your particular motor. You would also need to make sure the distance from the block is the same so that the starter will engage. I modified a Pontiac flywheel to fit a Cadillac. It was the right ring gear already, so I only had to machine it to slip on the crank nub and drill an alternate bolt pattern. The nose on the Cad starter wouldn't quite clear so I used a Hi Torque mini-starter. Worked out great.
    I only mention this alternative because I know certain engines are hard to get parts for. But it is do able since your flywheel apparently does bolt in place already.
     
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  20. Model A Mark
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    these is no part number.
     
  21. Model A Mark
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    Looks like a 67 to 69 big block Chrysler 440, sure didnt know they had a crank bolt pattern like this ..


     
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  22. There are 426 hemi/max wedge 8 bolt flywheels with 143 teeth
    The pics don’t show the crank recess on the back
     
  23. Budget36
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    Can I add confusion? Dodge/Chrysler, etc had an industrial 218/230 6 with an 8 bolt crank as well.
    The flange was longer, and the FW was recessed. Whereas the 4 bolt FW was flat if memory serves.
     
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