Another fenderless truck!!!!! Bring on the criticism!!!!!!

Bullet holes are only cool when they come from the inside!

 

just admit it, you know you hate these threads too.

 

Blackie - those concept drawings are awesome!!!, he should be paying you for your time and efforts.... nice work!!!

 

Reduce the grill size (for me) is about all I would do to it. Then drive the wee out of it. It's neat.

 

hey blackie im lovin the two fendered pics that oiange one would look insane with a good dusting of flake and a flattie. hahah it looks bipolar to me.

and rich D that truck looks bitchin

Back to the origanal topic fix the grill - the rake and the buck teeth look of it- maybe take a little flat black and paint thinner mix it 50/50 and rub it on the bright work on the motor. kinda ratrod to make fake dirt and grime but it would make it look better

 

I love it.

 

NOW YER TALKIN !!!
There is NOOO WAYYY that a fenderless post '35 could top a truck built like this !!

The Pass car Front metal treatment would be the limit, Go the extra mile and Fender these old haulers !!

 

Proportions.........

Im building a '36 ford truck no fenders.....

Ive looked at the ones that look right and he ones that look like shit....IMHO the on that started this thread looks like shit. Why?

The front end.

Look at rudy's, look at the red primered one by Ratsu (sp?) another in salt Lake and you'll notice the same. All the ones that look right pull the motor in deep against the firewall (which is often recessed) to keep the motor from looking like an afterthought. It is far easier to stick a motor out thre where it fits but the result is just like this one...not good look or proportions. And then you stick the grill out there and it is way the fuck out there!!!! When you pull the motor back everything else comes back.

These trucks had an original hood hinge pin that measured 30" from the grill to the cowl. 30" and less=Good looking hot Rod truck. >30"=Shitty Rat Rod.

Also Wheel Base.

Has to be <110"...Keep em tight. FFS!!!


Just What Ive learned as I have studied Fenderless trucks.

Despite somethings on this thread these fenderless trucks did happen back in the day. My Father in Law built a Fenderless Plymouth truck with a 392 in the late 50's..Chopped Channled, bobbed bed and all. Ill post a pic to prove it.

JJ

 

Despite somethings on this thread these fenderless trucks did happen back in the day. My Father in Law built a Fenderless Plymouth truck with a 392 in the late 50's..Chopped Channled, bobbed bed and all. Ill post a pic to prove it.


With this being stated, It got me to thinking about everything i have said & in no way have or am stating that these truck were never built back in the day.... I am sure about EVERYTHING has been built back in the day.

Its not about traditional with me on this subject, Its about what looks good, & not only to me but in the sense of PROPORTION.

What JJ said in this last post is true in my narrow mind... Rudy's original truck & a hand full of others have turned out well because of proprtion & wheel base.

The cartoon stretched out crappy grill & shitty looking engine's that MOST of these truck end up with have really turned a sour note with me.

Like JJ said & i think more people need to do is some research & alot of figuring & planning before they just jump in, build a turd, and then expect to have everyone love it.

Some things just DO NOT belong on a Hot Rod, & visible air bags is on the top of the list

 

lets not compare apples to oranges here.

 

UMMM 6 Posts & yer talkin shit ...

Thats ok... I can dig it !! But if you read all the posts you would relize im not comparing ANYTHING.

I am stating the fact that '35 & Later trucks are better suited for fenders & in my opinion look like shit 98% of the time.

There are exceptions to every rule... Late '30s up anything do not lend to fenderless Hot Rod styling.

I believe that if you think the fenderless truck that started this thread has a bett look than Blackies rendering..... You nee to go back to the OL STOOL RODZ board where that kinda Rat Rod shit is King

 

Whoa whao easy im far from saying that. His renderings are a whole hell of a lot nicer than that truck, as in not even comparable. Two totaly seperate plains of existance.

 

No big deal Man,

If ya havent noticed.... Im not the most well like shit talker around here

But it keeps the Timid on there toes, the Thin Skins pissed off at me, & the Key Board Hot Rodders sumpthin to yell at me about

 

So, to play devil's advocate, you would not consider this a hot rod?

 

Blackie, NICE work! I love the '40 commercial with passenger '36 stuff up front. There was one around a while back (was in RnC), cool, but not as neat as yours. For the record, my '37 is running fenders.

 

Thanks Jeem. Well, I have a '39 cab/box sitting in the trees, and a '36 grille hanging on the wall of the shop, so it got me thinking, hmmmm... The one you've seen is red right - basically '36 truck with '36 car grille? It's a nice build from what I've seen with the exception of one thing, but it's the most important. The grille is not in the right place relative to the front wheels. It sits out way too far. You have to get the grille in the right place! Over the one here, I think a slightly later cab and rear fenders would work better with the relatively round fronts of the '36 car.

 

Actually, No.... Since you asked.

That car, as well as the Plowboy specials and all the cars with 60's back ends welded together etc... Are built with an eye to the 60's Show-Car 'Shock-Rod' styling. I see them as a cross between a 60's custom and a 60's hot rod...

They are inventive as hell, have top-notch workmanship.

But in my opinion, they have very little to do with the go fast/keep it light and simple vibe of a hot rod.

However, I think it's insulting to those well-built, and extremely well thought out cars to include them in a discussion of post-'35, slapped together, fenderless truck, 'Compramize-Rods'...

 

Si, that is the one. I hear you on the grille placement, but if the owner was shooting for a real commercial look, I think he actually has it right. But for a purely aesthetic reason (....and really, is there any other?!), the grille needs to go back a ways. I built this model many moons ago. This was all '37 passenger to just behind the rear edge of the door cut line and the extreme rear portion of a quartered '40 truck cab was grafted on. I think your sliced and diced '40 cab would definitely work out better.
As far as non fendered later pickups go, I like 'em as long as the proportions are right (speculative), and the one at the beginning of this long thread has some issues. Shorter wheelbase, a nice rake and some more thought on the grille and placement would make a nice little hot rod.

 

I have seen some of the build on this car and from what i have seen this guy has some very good skills so dont think im Hate'n on this guy as a person.

Also, Having owned a '50 Champion in the past I do embrace the bullit nose Stude's.

But this car is in no way a Hot Rod, I dont think you can even classifie it as a Kustom.

To me it looks like a Cartoon Clown car or an Amusment park ride.

I would tend to agree with the posts before as it to be more of a "60s SHOCK ROD" Of sorts... I cant even think where a car like this would be placed in the automotive world.

Maybe more of an "ART CAR" to hone & show your metal working abilitys... I dunno, But i dont feel it for this car either.

 

I <3 DE SOTO for is brutal honesty. I've never seen anyone with the power to completely make people go nuts over brutal honesty like he can! LOL! A prized possesion on the HAMB. Just my $.02. Someone has to do it, right?

I think this thread has gotten so far off base with comments pounding DE SOTO that people don't even remember what we're talking about.

The guy asked for criticism and he certainly got more than he bargained for...

I love the HAMB!

 

Very well said DeSoto. I can appreciate your opinion on this one. You have a defined range of what you consider a traditional hot rod. I can absolutely respect that. My opinion is to inovate within the lines of a traditional pallette - Without this there wouldn't have been an evolution of the hot rod throughout it's early years.

You have a point, and I am one of the worst HiJacking offenders. BUT, this topic has continuously come up, and I am very intrigued by the comments against the type. If we are talking TYPE of hot rod, I would maintain that the fenderless truck has to be considered a TYPE. Some may not like this type or consider it a traditional TYPE. What we have to compare regarding these trucks is TYPE vs. EXECUTION. Some my think this type shouldn't exist, while others think that it is about the execution. I would say that I have seen other types (highboy roadsters, coupes, etc.) that have many, many examples of poor execution (proportions, fit, finish, wheel/tire combo, etc.) So this to me is the issue. If you can overcome challenges of proportion with this type, I think you can have a cool, fun, and relatively cheap ride.

 

BLACKIE, You are so right.... The truck that pretty much put this type of build on the map was Rudy Rodriguez truck.. I:E: THE RUDY TRUCK.

This truck was well built & executed with very good proportions...

Bu the majority of them after...(not all) Have been terrible & way off base.

I am convinced these trucks need only be in OL STOOL RODZ and patranized by the Dumb Ass's that Love & live the OL STOOL WAYZ.

Sorry, I have greased hair & greasy'r Jeans.... but i dont play the whole Bullshit Drunk on PBR Wann~Billy 'Ol Stool Rat Rodz craze that has seamed to take over the Hot Rod world

 

I fully agree with you!

Another topic sure to close a thread or two, but I'm fully feelin' that statement. It's like going to a halloween party anymore. Fights over who's more rockasilly and who drank more PBR. Just show me cool cars, good work, and good taste.

 

lOOKS GOOD. iS THAT BULLET HOLE REAL PATINE...

 

OK, so alot of these trucks wern't built back then, but how many people hotrodded an Essex, or cut down a 4 door into a truck cab then?

I do agree about proportions and planning though.

 

No hard feelings here DE SOTO. I could care less what people think of my truck.

But, have been curious and trying to find 5 window Model A coupe or even a 2 door sedan for $400 or less? One that is also not a pile of rust or over 1000 miles away from me.
I find them all day for $1500-$2500 for just the body.
Any suggestion or leads on where to find these deals????

 

Man, All i can say is Look, Look, Look
This is what i have come up with Local to me by looking & asking.

My 30 Sport Coupe Body & alot of extras including 3 roadster doors $420.00

1927 T roadster pick up body $100.00

1933 Dodge truck body trade for a '49~'53 flathead i got free

Late '31 steel top A truck body $300.00 from a ranch

1929 A 2dr sedan body & frame & a bunch of parts... missing doors $400.00

1919 Dodge Roadster body, frame, 331 Cadillac V8 Traded for a '67 VW bug that had caught fire

1927 Nash Roadster body traded a pink slip for a '26 chrysler for an oil field pumping unit & traded the pump for the Nash.

1920 Dodge Roadster Pick up body $300.00

1924 Buick 2dr sedan missing 1 door for $40.00

Have had MANY early frames, never paid more than $75.00 for them except the 1926 Chrysler rolling chassis with fenders, grill, tank, & bumpers.. paid $200.00 for that and doubled my money back on selling the fenders.

Farms, Ranches, Allys, Back Yards, Yard sales, i mean ya gotta go EVERYWHERE!

The '29 Sedan body i bought off a crane opperator i was working with, Started talking cars & he says " I Got One For Sale.."

 

Why do you care what we think? It's your car and your dream. You build it the way you want and tell all the nay sayers to take a long walk off a short pier.

 

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I love it when people bump up old threads for NO particular reason. A drama thread at that.

FNG's... **sigh -> shaking head**

 

hahaha... well, whatever makes 'em happy