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Any PA HAMBer's running street rod plates?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by sacred_piston, Nov 14, 2006.

  1. sacred_piston
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    I want to use a Pennsylvania street rod plate on my 40 ford truck so I can hopefully not have too much hassle with the cops, antique plate will really be pushing it on a hood & fenderless hot rod truck that scares woman and children, although I have seen it done.

    What is required for street rod plate and how do I start and what do I need to fill out? PENNDOT isn't very informative and figured someone has to have one.
     
  2. roadster1923
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    from Girard PA

    What is required for street rod plate and how do I start and what do I need to fill out? PENNDOT isn't very informative and figured someone has to have one.[/quote]

    There are going to be some major changes in obtaining a reconstructed/street rod in 1/1/2007. In an effort to streamline the process PennDOT will be assigning certain inspection stations with the ability to process all title work at the inspection station. Take a look at their website to find more info. www.dmv.state.pa.us Hope this helps.
    Steve
     
  3. HOT40ROD
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    I have done it. You are better off waiting for the changes in 2007. it should be alot easier.
     
  4. sawzall
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    sounds like its time to MOVE..

    NOTHING good can come from "certain" inspection stations havin the "privelage" of inspecting street rods in PA..
     
  5. Flop
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    [i just looked into it today and man does it sound like a pain in the ass... im either registering my car through an agency in maine or getting my mail sent to my buddies house in ohio and getting an ohio drivers license and ohio antique plate .
     
  6. HOT40ROD
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    The old way is not fun either. I do not know how meny times car have been rejected becuase of what the state sees in the pictures. Some times it took more then one time to get the car registered just becuase they did not like the way it looked in the pictures.
     
  7. noboD
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    If Fast Eddie is going to change anything, it won't be better, or cheaper. Expect all registrations to go up soon.
     
  8. Clark
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    I run regular plates and just don't get them inspected. So far so good. I figure if I get busted it's a $90 fine an then I'll deal with it. I know I'm running a risk and don't drink and drive.
    Clark
     
  9. mazdaslam
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    If you can,just run regular plates and get it inspected.It's not really that hard.Your car should be able to pass a simple safety inspection any way.All of those "specialty" plates have restrictions on how much you can use the vehicle.
     
  10. sacred_piston
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    Everyone seems to have same feelings as me that PA doesn everything it can to screw you and get more money out of you in taxes or registration fees, and I heard today Fast Eddie can't wait for ink to dry on ballots and is already talking about raising gas taxes. I wish I had money so I could run for office and bribe some people along the way for my causes like all these crooked democrats in this state.

    I read somewhere that PA has the 2nd largest population of antique/classic cars in the country yet it is one of the most restictive. I am kind of in same mind set as Clark to run regular plates and take chances paying fine for no inspection but with my luck they will decide to tow away my car.

    Did anyone find out what the exact changes are going to be for 2007 on these plates? My car is still in many pieces and if I am lucky it will be done next summer but thats me dreaming.
     
  11. thunderbirdesq
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    Here's a link to the scoop on the new regulations. Aparently, "street rods" don't qualify for the on-site quick registration anyhow. You still have to get it inspected, wait for the paperwork to come back from Harrisburg, and get it inspected again before you can drive it. So for us, the process is still the same, but now you can only get it inspected by a select few stations!!? Dumb... Regular tags, cycle fenders, and a hood are lookin' better and better these days!

    http://www.dot10.state.pa.us/pdotforms/inspections/Safety_Bulletin_BI06-1.pdf

    I hear ya, Jeff. NY state isn't that far away! I wonder what my wife would say if I told her we had to move so I could title the truck! yeaaaah....
     
  12. I,m like clark ,regular plates ,no inspection but everytime I see a statey I wonder if this is the day for the BUST!! So far so good ..I figure legal registration, legal insurance, no alcohal.,$90 ticket! Hopefully no tow!
     
  13. roadster1923
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    Got a phone call today from PennDOT with regard to the "new" Enhanced Vehicle Safety Inspection program. I will be receiving a packet of info soon. PennDOT feels that this new process will make it easier to obtain a reconstructed title. However, I think it is more of a shift of liability from the state to independent garage owner. In reading PennDOT's FYI letter, they seem very interested in retitling of flood vehicles and tinted windows. They also want criminal background checks and recertification for technicians; all that means is more $$$$ for Ed! When I get more info I will post it.
    Steve
     
  14. Harmon39
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    i ran a a blazer sittin on 44s and no bumpers for four years with no inspection.. even when i worked a nuc power plant and had no trouble... even got pulledover for speeding once in it...

    there is a guy around here that runs a 32 coupe fenderless and withoout a hood, he has a street rod plate... he told me that he never has had any problems with the man...
     
  15. roosters hot rods
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    move to florida,no state inspection here and we have street rod plates too........rooster:cool: no snow either.......................
     
  16. Flop
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    another thing with the street rod plate is you have to have a recipt for the motor, trans ,rear end, shock mount, castle nut, brake drum,radiator etc etc etc
    so angry guy at the swap meet that i haggled down for my shock mounts can i have a recipt with this purchase. how bout the stuff you find for free ?
    pennsylvania is fucked to say the least
     
  17. noboD
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    Clark and others that run no inspection, do you realise you may not have insurance ? I've read in my policy that out of date registration or inspection, no seat belts, alcohol, drugs, etc. the company does not HAVE to cover an accident. I've never heard of anyone being denyed, BUT it's still a threat.
     
  18. 5window
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    With all respect to our more experienced PA cohorts, why not just do it now and do it right? Why take a chance on fines,denial of insurance,waiting for the state to make another move or just being hassled by the police?

    Here's what you need to know:

    1. Go to your local AAA or titling agency and get Form MV-426B "Instructions for Completion of Reconstructed/Specially Constructed Form MV426". Smile,tell them you'll be back,and leave.
    2. Fill out the application. Take clear pictures of all 4 sides of the car,don't attach them yet. You'll also need photos of the engine (maybe) if it has been modified,and the exhaust-which needs,I think, to match the year of the engine manufacture.I've got a 350 in my Model A and it never came up. Get your title and registration if you have one, plus as many major parts receipts as you can find and the orginal sale bill. The state only wants to make sure you have paid traxes on what you used to make this car. Directions for taking the pictures and what receipts you need are in the form. Get insurance on the car.

    3.Find a friendly inspection station. You know, the guys who will not hassle you and will bend a little to get you up and running. Be nice,play dumb. They will do a preliminary inspection,fill out part of the form-a checklist that you have wheels,tires,etc.-sign the back of your pictures and put half a sticker on your car and the other half in the form. Pay what they ask-you have to go back later.


    4. This is the most IMPORTANT part. Do not take your form to AAA or the title service or your Aunt Betty's third cousin once removed. Go ONLY to the office of your state representative. This is why they are there. Give them a very nice new envelope with all of your paperwork and proof of insurance (you did copy everything right?-send only copies of the receipts,save a copy of your Form,etc) and pay the fees. Your state rep then takes it to Harrisburg and walks it through the DMV. It is way,way faster, far less hassle and you are much more likely to get anything through. The DMV just doesn't mess with these folks. You they live to give hell to.

    The state will send you a new plate and a registration,plus maybe a new VIN number and title if you needed one. Then you put on your new plate and take your insurance card and new registration back to the inspection guys who then give you a new window sticker.

    At this point, you have a completely legal car,with insurance,a title and registration and a street rod plate. You will also have fun knowing that the hotrod which has been pictured on the PA street rod plate for years was an illegal vehicle in Pennsylvania untill the law changed in 2006.

    PM me if you want more details or want to talk about it.
     
  19. DeucePhaeton
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    Haggerty Ins. can be of help with this.
     
  20. terrarodder
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    from EASTERN PA

    I'v been running them since they came out, my no. is 0132, and I did not have any trouble switching from one car to another. I would rather go through the hassle of getting street rod plates then pay a fine if I'm cougth, I don't have money to give the Gov. then he needs.
     
  21. im running a regular plate on my truck,inspection sticker is from 1978,
     
  22. 38mag
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    Be sure all receipts show PA sales tax, they caught me on a few.
    They sent my application back and asked me to send payment for the tax I owed. Being sure the sales tax was paid on all parts and services was very important to them.
     
  23. EDPACECAR
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    Talked to someone who is in the know on this Street Rod tag/Inspection issue. All street rods/customs (cars that needed to fill out MV426 for Pa. state) will only be able to get inspected at a Safety Enhanced Inspection Station. If you have regular tags and your inspection station is not a ESIS then they are not to inspect you rod. For the Pro Street Rods, if you fill your gas tank inside the trunk you will no longer pass. From 01/01/2007 on inspections and street rod tags must use a ESIS only. I have yet to find a station in my area yet that is going to become a ESIS. From what I've been told it looks like a crack down on cars in the gray area on some items. I am suprised that there isn't more uproar about this.

    If anyone has more info on this issue please post. It seems PennDot wants to start thi in Jan. because most rods are asleep for the winter.
     
  24. terrarodder
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    The last I heard they are not going to go through with the Safty Enhanced Inspection stations because not enough stations have applied for it, cost to much money for the equipment to do them.
     
  25. EDPACECAR
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    Got news today from someone who spoke to Penn Dot. They said they are still going through with having Safty Enhanced Inspection Stations starting Jan. 30, 2007. Most stations are not siging up. They tried this in New Jersey and it was dropped because not enough stations signed up for it. I'm surprised this isn't a bigger issue for street rodders. There will be no more getting street rod inspected with regular plates.
     
  26. Rot 'n Kustom
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    How about post-'48 customs? Is there an appropriate plate for them? PA Street Rod plates have a pre-'49' cut-off, unless that has changed.

    I used to run an antique plate on my '58 Chevy, a mild custom, and I got away with it it for a number of years. I think things may be different now.
     
  27. sawzall
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    so who is your source? could it be that Mike Kramer. guy?

    if this is true, alot of people are going to become "outlaws" which pisses me off.

    Rather than hassle honest people for putting a new engine in an old car, penn dot should be putting a stop to the uninsured Illegals that pollute our streets and cause 1000's of dollars damage..

    thanks again for nothing PADOT..
     
  28. sawzall
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    oh dave. a few years ago I heard talk of a "custom" plate for post 1950 cars, and I think its a possibility, given that it might generate more revenue for the idiots in harrisburg..

    the worse part is that I know some of the folks who were involved with the initial push to get "street rod" tags here in pa, and guess what, they were rodders, this is a classic example of "we shoulda been more careful what we asked for" becuase this "process" has morphed into just another method for the state to SCREW folks outta cash..

    PENNDOT SUCKS
     
  29. ChrisinPhilly
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    Most cops don't know the specifics regarding classic car inspections. I can tell you right now that none of the ones I work with here in Philly know about inspections on antique, classic or street rods. As they say here in the hood "Act like ya know". Feign ignorance if you have to. Also in Pa it's no longer a fine for no (or expired)inspection, it's a court date.
     
  30. scarylarry
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    And when you are all finished with this process, you now own a car with a reconstructed title right?
     

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