Any PA HAMBer's running street rod plates?

I htink you will get a street rod title brand. PA has a title brand for all kinds of vehicles. Flood, Recovered theft, Reconstructed, Classic, Collictable. I buy wrecked cars and fix them and get a Reconstruced title for the em. sometimes its a hassle. whem my 31 is finished I have the original title and was just going to get a regulare plate at least for this summer and worry about the street rod plate next year. I was trying to find out if the state wsa going to proceed with this new inspection station rgualtions for street rod vehicles but have not found out yet. I will know soon as my father in law is in the process of registrying a cobra he built and has to go through all this.

where does it state that the fuel fill up needs to be outside the vehicle and not inside. just curious as my tank in the trunck of the 31

 

I think it depends on what you are trying to do.If you are going for a "street rod" plate you will get a very handsom blue and aluminum VIN plate with numbers issued by the state to be mounted on the car where the state says and the title will be a "Street Rod" title.If the vehicle is post 48,I think you end up with a "Reconstructed" brand on the title. Either way,is SUCKS!!!

 

Fuck it, I'll keep running regular plates and no inspection until I get a ticket. I think I would only need cycle fenders and a windshield wiper to be legal anyway.

 

And a proper registration .

 

I'm about to go through this "process" myself... I bought a 32 roadster out of state, and got a title from the seller (in his name and current) for a 1932 Ford. I am planning to send in some picutures and forms, and try to get it registered as a street rod right from the get-go, rather than just titling it as a 32 ford first, then applying for the street rod title. Since i bought the car finished, i have no reciepts showing what was spent for parts, and the car was not titled as a rod in the state i got it from, so i "may" get rejected... right now I'm trying to get mirrors and a wiper on it for pics, which are required in PA even on a rod... it has no fenders or bumpers so i cant get a regular plate for it.. I've had the car over a month already and still have not attempted any of this, as i still need pics of the car with mirrors/wipers on it (see my other thread asking for photshop help ) I'd appriciate any advice anyone can give me, or experiences you have had in bringing an already finished street rod into PA from out of state, and the problems you may have had in getting PA Street Rod plates. -JB

 

A 1932 Ford cant have a regular tag if it can pass a current inspection?

 

As I read the changes, it looked to me like the "approved" stations would be for the processing of new applications-not for the continuation of already inspected cars. Is this wrong?

As for not registering a vehicle, or not haveing a current inspection, I sure wouldn't want to be driving with no insurance as a result! Not in PA!

 

No, a street rod title. "Reconstructed" is for wrecks re-built. Way more complicated,you need way more receipts and data. Don't go there if you can avoid it.

 

I heard about this too. I wonder how all the pre-'67 VW owners are going to feel about cutting a hole in the hood for an external filler. And to keep the pot stirred, a friend said last week he read in the H-burg paper that a law was passed that headlights HAVE to be turned on when windshield wipers are used. Anyone hear this??

 

I would imagine this would go under the same idea as your car needs the emissions and safty equipment it was equiped with form the factory. e.g pre 74 cars dont need emissions and pre 65 does not need seatbelts.

 

as far as the tank goes.. i think monte chris is right..

i think that the headlight / wiper law was passed awhile ago.. NJ has had that law forever.. (and I dont think its a bad Idea..) so I will not comment on its necessity..

this is how I understand the new "rules"

ALL street rods will NOW have to be inspected at one of these "approved" stations..

( l learned this from a friend of mine was looking at becoming of of the approved stations) apparently PENNDOT and harrisburg were "selling it" this way to potential sites (garages)

because they (the "enhanced or approved" stations would have sole juristition over a certain geographic area, and would be the only ones in the area who could inspect street rods)

SO.. lets examine this..

saY after I retitle my vintage car as a street rod (and jump through all the hurtles that are necessary) THEN I pay my tax for all the parts I may or may not have paid tax on, and proove that nothing on the car is not stolen (interesting how the burden of proof is on the car owner to prove everything is legit..)

then after all this hassle I have the option of ONE station within a certain area to inspect my car..

and what if that station is owned by some A-hole that i dont care for? (which I can forsee happening..) humm.. interesting..

as for the poster above whos bringing a car in from out of state..

I'd say you'd need a bill of sale, and the state is going to want proof that none of the parts on the car are stolen.. how you do that? I dont know..

for me.. swampland in maryland is looking better and better every day...

 

If you were to go by the letter of the law in Pa, if you so much as remove the factory radio and install an aftermarket radio, your vehicle has been "modified" and to be "legal" it should be re-titled and registered as "reconstructed"

 

See if this makes any sense.
http://www.dot10.state.pa.us/pdotforms/mv_forms/mv-426B.pdf

 

Here is the web address for info from Penn Dot:

https://www.dotdev3.state.pa.us/pdotforms/inspections/Safety_Bulletin_BI06-1.pdf

Here are some of the high lights:

ATTENTION: ALL OFFICIAL INSPECTION STATIONS
QUALITY ASSURANCE OFFICERS AND PENNSYLVANIA STATE POLICE
BI06-1
SAFETY INSPECTION BULLETIN
APRIL 2006

As a follow-up to the September 2005 letter concerning the review of the reconstructed vehicle process, PennDOT has continued to work with the “Specialized Vehicle Compliance Advisory Panel”
to establish procedures and requirements for the inspection and titling of reconstructed, specially constructed, modified, flood, recovered theft, collectible vehicles and street rods. This panel (which is prescribed by law) consists of Legislative, Department and Industry representatives.

As you may be aware, any appointed safety inspection station may currently inspect reconstructed, specially constructed, modified, flood, recovered theft, collectible vehicles and street rods, complete the required application form and submit it to PennDOT for processing. Upon receipt of a title, the applicant then has to obtain a registration and license plate and have the vehicle reinspected prior to being able to operate the vehicle.

The new process will consist of a network of specially equipped Enhanced Vehicle Safety Inspection Stations under contract with PennDOT with specially trained inspection personnel. Enhanced Vehicle Safety Inspection Stations may also choose to become a participating company in our On-Line
Registration Program and be authorized to process title and registration work. This would permit you to issue registration plates, cards and stickers for customers, including those requesting credentials for reconstructed and flood vehicles. For those Enhanced Vehicle Safety Inspection Stations that decide
not to participate in the On-Line Registration Program, the services of the existing network of dealers, agents and messengers, who are able to issue registration credentials for a reconstructed vehicle that
qualifies, will be available.

I listed just a few of the Questions and answers
The following questions and answers will provide you with a more comprehensive overview of the program and assist you in determining whether or not you choose to participate in this program.

Q.
What types of vehicles will require an Enhanced Vehicle Safety Inspection?
A.
All vehicles currently requiring the submission of an MV-426 application (for reconstructed, specially constructed, flood, modified, recovered theft, collectible vehicles and street rods)
will require the Enhanced Vehicle Safety Inspection

Q.
If I am not an Enhanced Vehicle Safety Inspection Station, will I be authorized to inspect reconstructed, specially constructed, flood, modified, recovered theft, collectible vehicles and street rods and complete the required application for the purpose of having a vehicle titled and registered in Pennsylvania?
A.
No. Only those stations appointed as an Enhanced Vehicle Safety Inspection Station will be authorized to perform these functions after January 1, 2007

 

I f you already have the vehicle titled and are using it, all you have to do is a transfer to the street rod "classification". BUT, if your like me and will only be getting it on the road in the next two or three months, it will probably be better to wait until the new regs go into effect....I really hope it isn't the hassle like it is right now "with the 16 8x10 glossy photos with the circles and arrows........" Sorry I just went into that Arlo Guthrie mode. It happens sometimes.

 

Oh God I am SOOO confused. The one link two or three posts back had the fender and hood requirements in it yet, aren't they dead?

Someone please tell me once and for all can I run regular plates and no fenders?

Thanks,
CHAZ

 

AMEN, Brother!
I wasn't suggesting we needed another revenue source for the sponges in Harrisburg. Just wondering what to do.

I may go "Antique" plate again and hope for the best. I can live with the driving restrictions: "parades, shows, and occasional pleasure driving of not more than once a week."

I figure that's 52 pleasure days plus all the shows and parades and such. Since I won't drive in the winter - I can take my pleasure from spring to fall...

What I would save on insurance and inspection fees would be worth it, I think.

 

I think I'll just pay the fine for not getting my shit inspected. A lot easier than dealing with PenDot.

BTW inspection has nothing to do with insurance or registration. I have both I just don't have a sticker in the corner of my window.

If I get hasled too much Florida is the new place to get tags. Tell them you're a snowbird. They'll even send the renewal notice to your home in PA
Clark

 

For more info on Pa. Changes go to this web address

http://www.dot3.state.pa.us/inspections/safety_bulletins.shtml

Look at B105-1
... regarding the coordination of inspection stickers and registrations change? A1: Act 229 of 2004 repealed portions of the Vehicle Code to ... the customer requests it. CHANGES IN STREET ROD INSPECTION CRITERIA Act 228 of 2004, which becomes effective on January 30, 2005, has ...

Look at Safety Bulletin BI06-1, April 2006

• Update regarding the establishment of enhanced inspection
• Stations to conduct inspection of reconstructed vehicles

Act 228 of 2004, which becomes effective on January 30, 2005, has changed certain equipment requirements for vehicles registered as street rods. The new language states that: "Vehicles registered as street rods will not be required to be equipped with bumpers, fenders or engine coverage as originally manufactured. If the hood, top and sides, or both, are removed from the vehicle the engine fan must be enclosed with a shroud designed to protect the fan from accidental contact from the outside." As a result of this change, street rods will no longer be rejected for inspection for not having bumpers, fenders or an engine enclosure provided a fan shroud is present as required. These changes only apply to Registered street rods. The existing rejection criteria found in Subchapter K (pertaining to bumpers, fenders and engine covers) still applies to specially constructed and reconstructed vehicles.

 

Fabulous! So the fenderless "highboy" pickup I am building based on a 1950 F-1 pickup can never be legally registered. Now what the hell do I do?
Thanks,
CHAZ

 

Unless things have changed since the last time I had "Antique" plates,
no inspection is required by the state.

I was once pulled over by a local cop a block from home. He told me I needed an inspection sticker and he wrote me a ticket - in front of all my neighbors who came out to watch.

I told him he did not know the rules and took the ticket, fuming.
I immediately went to my local inspection garage, owned by a member of my car club. He called Harrisburg to make sure there weren't any changes in the law. I could tell by his grin I was right.

Next day I went to the police station to talk to the sargeant on duty. I showed him the ticket which he promptly ripped up saying,
"Officer Jones has been instructed in the law. Have a nice day!"

And while it is possible to get low-rate specialty car insurance with any type of registration, having the antique plate seemed to make the insurance company happier.

 

I find it hard to believe that you can get antique plates with a truck looking like mine will! LOL!
CHAZ

 

the weird part hoof i got a ticket for no inspection in the summer and got a warning told the cop i was waiting for my antique pate he said fine
part was it was in my 57 chevy gasser no fornt bumper slicks on the back radiused quarters
sent in fake pictures took my antique plate to the cop station and all was fine .

[blah all this shit makes my head spin..im either going the florida or ohio route.grandma lives in the fla and i have a buddy who lives in ohio.send your insurance there get online bill paying so you dont have to go get your mail get an antique plate in either state so you dont have to worry about registration every year and it seems like you will be set. i dont think a state cop can mess with you if you are following your "states requirements".
just my .02 on pendot bullshit!!!!

 

Anyone want to chip in on a dump in florida so we can all get tags.lol.

 

10 square feet of land with a mail box haha!!

 

I promise to stay in my own corner of the lot..

 

No, you can't. Trust me I'm not taking the state's side, but the application asks if there are ANY modifications. The bitch didn't want to give me an antique license for my original '24 DB because there was a reflection of my house in the shiney fender. Another friend couldn't get plates because his original paint car didn't shine like she thought it should. I just talked to a friend that's in the know because of his job and he says we are getting full Ca. emissions test in '08. Macgintee pushed it through, and we can't even vote her out of office because she's appointed by Fast Eddie.

 

Classic, collector and antique plates are the most common.

I have used the classic plates on a few cars, you have to send photos in to the state of the front, back and sides of vehicle. State insp is required...I also believe if your vehicle has a R title it will then become a classic title.. Not sure on that, though.

The bummer is that the car has to appear to look stock to the state. I suppose some cars could be mocked up to look stock in photos (I have done it more than once) or just send photos of something else in

Antique I had on one car and it was pretty restrictive. No inspections but also no driving after dusk.

Collector plates might work --- they specially designed for modified vehicles with engine swaps, etc. ANy experience with them?

 

I followed this process and had my plate, title, and new VIN plate back within 2 weeks.

 

Because I also need to transfer my title at the same time I am applying for a street rod plate, i think i am going to take a day off of work and actually drive to Harrisburg with all my forms filled out, (with the exception of the title transfer form, which you cannot download and must be picked up and filled out in the presence of a notary) Stand in line, lay all my photos and filled out forms from the inspection mechanic on the counter, and tell the man or lady that i just bought a finished street rod from out of state, and wish to get a Street Rod tag and title. I have a bill of sale from the seller, and will have an insurance card there for them too... I've heard you can get the whole thing done right there on the spot, and walk out with a new plate. Either that or get rejected and go home pouting... but either way, you'll know where you stand when you leave.

Now if I could just get someone to help me photoshop some mirrors and wipers onto a couple pics...