[ QUOTE ] here's an example of Ryan's work involving Flash: www.jalopyjournal.com/Pic***o neat, huh? thanks, Ryan. [/ QUOTE ] That's bad***.....
thtas funny Ryan... perl is antiquated .. hahahahahah Dude, i write code, both in the web app area and actual everyday products, and most of the prototypes and tools and test apps.. all written in perl. Anything after that.. java...
PERL is obsolete homeboy. Name one major brand that has an architecture based on that language. And I say this with a lot of pain, because PERL is my native language and the one I know the best. Don't get me wrong, I love PERL but it's only uses now are small web apps, prototypes (like you say), and the like... I work for the largest interactive firm in the country and I'd say 80% of all our development is in C# optimized for .net environment... That said, we still do quite a bit of php and java for other projects.
I have to say I don't agree with Ryan that perl is antiquated. I see lots of it everyday. I started out working for an ISP, bottom of the rung, Help Desk. worked my way up through the ranks to Network Engineer. Then the dot.com bubble burst. Now I work in IT support for BioInformatics. I work at a major university in a Genetics lab. Pretty neat stuff, but I never thought I'd be here. Anyway I work with perl everyday, most of the big apps for bioinformatics are written in Perl. Python is closing fast. You can't see them but they are web accessable. Most everything is Perl, Apache, MYSQL, Postgres, PHP. It's not the most glamorous place to do web development, but the paycheck doesn't ****. I've been working in IT for a decade and have noticed there is more than the WWW to web development. Got a friend who does nothing but flash for interactive cl***es. But don't ignore MS stuff either, there will always be some of it around where ever you work.
My company's firewall (one of the largest in Australia and growing in the US) blocks ALL Flash. Pic***o's site don't show nothing to me! Not good, from a user's point-of-view.
As someone who has/and does configure firewalls for a living. That's some ******** right there. What they're trying to do is filter out content. i.e. keep you from surfing stuff that isn't work related. There is no real security threat from flash. They're just trying to keep you down.
Lots of IT jobs are going overseas. go to www.itpaa.org, www.forio.com/outsourcing.htm, etc. Be careful about your selection of IT careers. What will probably never go overseas are: security development, compliance development, and development for medium to small businesses. Take a look at Monster.com and the jobs section of cities you'd like to live in (esp. where your wife may end up working!) , to get a feel for what types of programming languages to learn.
I need to add my two cents on Flash. Remember in the dark ages (the 80s) when suddenly everyone with a computer was using a dozen fonts on every memo? I think Flash has suffered some of that same hot fad fate. Sometimes Flash is used well and contributes to making a site effective. But all to often, and especially in the days when it first became available, it has been over-used because its the current hot technology. My son is a partner in a web-design firm. He recently told me about a prospect that wanted a Flash site. I asked what the prospect wanted to accomplish with the site, and was told they still don't know. Someone is going to do that guy a Flash site, but will it do anything for his business? Probably not. Flash is like any other technology, the geeks may find it cool, but it has limited business value if it does not enhance business performance. As for Perl... well four and five years ago people who knew Cobal were doing real well and more recently I've seen lots of opportunities to use FoxPro. But those were almost all short-lived projects. I haven't seen a need for Cobal in the last few years, and the FoxPro projects are all migrations to something else. Perl isn't dead, but it isn't the future either. I'm not sorry I know it (knew it?), but find no use for it these days... I really don't want to learn .NET!
Thanks Fuel Pump. can you get me some good color pics of the stuff he has? I'm having a time getting pics like I need. thanks Ray
[ QUOTE ] As for Perl... well four and five years ago people who knew Cobal were doing real well and more recently I've seen lots of opportunities to use FoxPro. But those were almost all short-lived projects. I haven't seen a need for Cobal in the last few years, and the FoxPro projects are all migrations to something else. [/ QUOTE ] The reason why Cobal was so hot 4 or 5 years ago was legacy code and Y2K. That's it. They needed to update the code for it then they were done. Cobal is pretty much over now. I don't think Perl is anywhere near that, especially if you work in a Unix environment.
I've made a few. I rarely finish one before I find some better way of doing it and start completely over. I'd love to use PHP, but for my personal stuff I can't afford the extra hosting costs, and for my dad's site www.quadravox.com I didn't have enough time.
Here is the web site I have been tinkering with for little over a year now. I basically work on it when I am bored. I'm using a program called "Cool Pages" which is really easy to use, BUT don't use AIM while using it you'll loose what you just did (Cool Pages will crash). http://www.htc.net/~clssy56/Tri-5ChevyMain.html I was just planning on doing 56s, but the guys on CT begged me to expand it to 55 and 57s. Which now I have to change the 56 format, oh well....I like them all. <font color="blue"> Speaking of which.... anyone know of any simple counters for websites. I don't want it linked to anything, just a counter.</font>
I think i agree with ryan a bit on his stance on perl... i dont see it being used as much as before.. for web applications. Even my last app was a php front end with a perl backend. But i see it being used more in other areas. I use it for all kinds of Sys admin stuff and network maintenance tools.. its great. Probably wont ever die.. like the way of cobol... people try to tell me that TCL is dead... but companies still use it to program test tools and i know plenty of people that write tons in it. The key is , use what you know... But back to the original question on this topic.. The key is to not be afraid to learn as much as you can, dont be scared of the acronyms, read tons of books and ask questions. And be prepared to work hard, even if it isnt exactly what you went to school for. You may find something related that you like AND pays the bills.
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