Problems if I run a older alterd for HA/GR? Its a torsion bar front ended car,has a body and a powerglide. Just want to be sure before I put a motor in it. Thanks Mike.
The motor will have to be a 6 cylinder or flathead V8 before 1962. The powerglide is the thorn for HA/GR.. It is suppost to be a stick shift..But if you run the SDRA cl*** you can use the glide trans..
I could do a stick set up, but would rather not. I want to race with the the west coasters here. With the track rules, its easier/cheaper for me with the auto.
Thats fine,, Old28 is building an SDRA car now, He lives in Bakersfield..Look at his build thread..You will be able to run the open wheel cl*** at the ANRA races also...Have fun with your build..
Build it with an automatic, can run a later 194/230/250/292 Chevy or a Ford 300 inline six per the SDRA rules. Still need to have a ch***is cage that meets NHRA spec's for 10 sec or slower altered to run at Famoso. I will have my car ready for the ANRA 2012 season and we have another Flathead Altered that may join the group. We can run each other during qualifying on Sat like the HA/GR do and then you will be paired by your qualifying for Sunday elimination in the Open Wheel Cl***. The open wheel cl*** is a great group of racers having a good time making p***es and enjoying front motor open wheel racing. I for one would be happy to see 2 or 3 SDRA type cars out there next year. If you are interested in the SDRA car spec's send me a PM and I will send you a list. You do need to make sure the car fits into the cl*** before you sink money into it. Tom Welch
It would depend on ch***is rails too, a small tube space frame car doesn't meet the rules or the "spirit" of either cl***.
Okay Tom, Ill Pm you. 97 The car should be fine, maybe a couple of updates. The frame is a rectangle bottom rail with a tube top rail. It might be a chevy 250-6 for power. Its a older car that was updated at some point or built with a older design.
Here is a copy of the 2011 SDRA Rules for you to look at. Take a hard look at the roll cage rule and the 3" front bar clearance, as they have snagged 4 open wheel car in last two races for not meeting spec's. Both the HA/GR & SDRA cars have about the same rule on the Frame, Front and Rear Axle. From what you told (97) I think your frame will work out fine. Read the rules for both groups of cars so you have a good handle on where each is coming from. I am posting the rules here so all can see them and I will PM them to you with some additional information. ______________________________________________________________ SDRA Senior Dragster Racing Association Updated 11/30/10 General Information Senior Dragster refers to the type of car, not the age of the person racing these cars. SDRA cars should be built to resemble drag cars of the late 40s, early 50s. They should conform to todays safety standards. This will mainly impact the roll cage area. This is to satisfy track and insurance requirements. (YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SAFTEY AND INTEGRITY OF YOUR CAR.) SDRA rule changes must be voted on by car owners and p***ed by 60% of the members. Each car gets one vote. ONLY car owners that are current dues paying members of SDRA can vote. All compe***ion points earned by that car stay with that car. Important - The idea of these cars and rules is that a person working a 40 hour week or is on a limited budget can have and enjoy a race car. No car shall be quicker than 11.35 at an SDRA event or you lose round points. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask. #1 ENGINE Inline and flathead V8s motors stock iron blocks. Flatheads motors may run an aluminum heads. OHV inline motors must run original type IRON heads. Porting and polishing allowed. Cars with cooling systems or water tanks must have a radiator cap and over flow catch can. NO; - OHCs Wayne heads, Ardun heads, Overhead valve V8s or V6s. No Superchargers, Turbochargers, or Nitrous oxide. #2 IGNITIONS Conversions such as Pertronix that fit inside the distributor are allowed. NO; - Magnetos, HEIs or electronic boxes that mount outside the distributor with the exception of a revlimiter. #3 CARBURETORS ERA SPECIFIC CARBS PREFERED such as one and two barrel Rochesters, Stromberg 97s, 94s 81s and 48s, or one OEM four barrel, as an example. Carbs must have anti siphon device(s), such as velocity stack(s), air cleaner(s), or air scoop(s) in the 40s and 50s style. No after market or custom carbs. #4 FUELS Pump gas or Racing gas only. NO ALCOHOL. #5 TRANSMISSION / CLUTCHES AUTOMATICS ALLOWED, STALL CONVERTERS ALLOWED. Must have a WORKING neutral safety switch, and a reverse lockout. Shift light ok. Cars should have an NHRA style shield around the flex plate area. No Tran brakes Standard transmissions Must have a reverse lock out with a neutral safety switch, and run a ¼ 360 degree ****ter shield if using a stock bell housing. Flywheels and clutch ***embly should be new, not rebuilt. Racing components preferred. NO slipper clutches, No electric or air shifters allowed. No Lenco transmissions. #6 FLOORBOARDS NHRA requires all cars to have a floorboard or belly pan to protect the driver from debris. Floorboards over the transmission area are to be of the following material and go to the rear of the seat; Steel .024 min. Aluminum .032min. An SFI certified blanket may be used in place of a floorboard over the transmission. #7 TIRES / WHEELS 6 inch max. rear tire tread width, automotive DOT street tire only. Radial or Bias ply OK. Rear wheels can be any diameter but no wider than 6 inches. Steel wheels recommended. No slicks, cheater slicks of any design allowed. #8 STARTERS / BATTERIES / TAILLIGHT / BRAKES Cars must be equipped with an engine mounted starter and be self starting. Batteries must be securely mounted in a box. Cars must have a MASTER Cut Off switch mounted on the REAR of the car. A solid RED light must be attached to the REAR of the car and mounted as closed to the cut off switch as possible for night racing. Brakes can be foot or hand operated and must be in good working order. No line locks. #9 DRIVER SAFETY Driver must wear a full face helmet. Snell 2000 or later, or approved by NHRA, and at least a single layer fire retardant jacket and pants or suit and leather shoes, NO tennis shoes. Neck, arm restraints, gloves and a 5 point safety restraint harness that is SFI approved and up to date is required. Ref. NHRA. #10 CH***IS Mild steel tubing of .125 wall, (a wall thickness greater than .118 will meet NHRA spec.. Stock or modified frame rails, 3 OD x .125 wall round, 1-1/2 x 3 rectangular tube, 3 x 2 x.125 C channel, are acceptable. NO Chromemoly Stock width rear axle preferred. (52 min track width). Rear end to be solid mounted with a min of 3ea. Grade 8, 3/8 bolts per side. An anti rotation device should be used. Front axle width 40 min (king pin to king pin). A sprung front axle is recommended, solid mounting is optional. Positive caster recommended. Wheel base; 92 min., 130 max Drivers seat bottom must be between the axles. NO sling shot style cars. Grade 5 or better bolts and capture washers required on all heims ALL cars must have a fire wall, side panels, cowl and Floorboard or belly pan, to protect the driver. #11 ROLLBARS NO CHROMEMOLY A 5 point cages can use 1-5/8 x .125 wall tubing; main hoop must be 2 over drivers helmet, with the front hoop 3 min. in front of the drivers helmet. A 6 point cages can use 1-1/2 x .125 tubing; main hoop must be 2 over drivers helmet, with the front hoop 3 in front of the drivers helmet. See NHRA rule book for cage construction details. #12 DRIVELINE If an open drive line is used: a safety loop (2 x ¼ strap) must be installed within 6 of the center line of each U joint. Floor boards must separate the driver from the drive shaft. #13 STEERING Any box converted to center steer; Vega, Corvair, etc., SPE or the like. No excessive play. Grade 8 bolts or better required and capture washers.
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