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anyone ever over engineer something?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by flathead31coupe, Dec 8, 2007.

  1. I have to keep saying to myself,"start building --- get it running -- change it later. I very seldom have to back and fix something that broke, but just to make it purtier!
    I have welded a perfect job up 180 degrees out, and the finished product ( after I have cut and re-welded ) never looks as good as the first one.
    Bob
     
  2. 1950ChevySuburban
    Joined: Dec 20, 2006
    Posts: 6,185

    1950ChevySuburban
    Member Emeritus
    from Tucson AZ

    We all over-engineer or overbuild stuff, thats OK
    Its when you build yourself into a corner that ****s! I've seen guys weld brackets in front of serviceable things like alternators, only to curse later when they have to replace it. (It wasn't me)

    Anyone ever do a waterpump on a 2004 Stratus V6? Thats some overengineered ****!
    (Is it overengineered or underthought)?
     
  3. gary terhaar
    Joined: Jul 23, 2007
    Posts: 656

    gary terhaar
    Member
    from oakdale ny

    Yup,took the motor out.I use to work at a dealer tat job paid 6.5 or 7.0 hours warrenty....That ****ed.
     
  4. RugBlaster
    Joined: Nov 12, 2006
    Posts: 563

    RugBlaster
    Member

    Albert Einstein said, "Make everything as simple as possible, but not simpler."
     
  5. chaddilac
    Joined: Mar 21, 2006
    Posts: 14,076

    chaddilac
    Member

    I hate when my Pop comes out in the shop after his nap and I've been workin on something for hours and just about finished, when he says... "Why didn't you just do blah blah blah...."

    Then I feel like an idiot for not seeing the simplest answer!
     
  6. Dznuts
    Joined: Dec 2, 2007
    Posts: 65

    Dznuts
    Member
    from ATL jo ja

    at work i have to build things for 3000 hp dragsters that will hold up and work. i have to do this in a timely fashion so my boss will make money. its a real challenge every day. i start out with a nice simple idea. over build it (strength) in planning mode and then back it off a little when it comes to cut and weld time. now do i over engineer things and my boss comes over half way through the day and say..... "why didnt you just"

    of course!!!! but i am getting better at (as someone said earlier) keeping it simple stupid then make it attractive.

    im gonna leave on this though. customers cars end up good... my cars end up overengineered EVERY time! :)
     
  7. Hotrob
    Joined: Mar 23, 2005
    Posts: 589

    Hotrob
    Member
    from DFW, TX

    I generally go the other way.
     
  8. TagMan
    Joined: Dec 12, 2002
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    TagMan
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    Thanks for sharing that, but it's WAY more than we need to know! :D
     
  9. jonny o
    Joined: Oct 26, 2007
    Posts: 836

    jonny o
    Member

    We're in the p***ionate realm of hot rodding. Call it what you will: racing, traditional rodding, cruising.... it's all based on modification for speed or looks or or or.

    It's what we love, doing things how the F we want.

    Wait, did someone say something about reinventing the wheel?
    [​IMG]
     
  10. BigDanF4i
    Joined: Nov 28, 2006
    Posts: 197

    BigDanF4i
    Member

    I might get jabbed by this, but the "twheel" is so damn cool. I'd like to try a set
     
  11. pan-dragger
    Joined: Sep 13, 2006
    Posts: 3,186

    pan-dragger
    Member

    i'd call it re-invenvting the tire, leave it to michelin.
     
  12. Lobucrod
    Joined: Mar 22, 2006
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    Lobucrod
    Alliance Vendor
    from Texas

    I tend to overbuild to make up for the lack of engineering.
     
  13. pitman
    Joined: May 14, 2006
    Posts: 5,148

    pitman

    Hey fella! I came into injun-eerin' the back way. First becoming a rodder-builder. So when it comes time to make a bracket, or heat, bend and torture some component, I would always look at what has worked for others, and recall when you've seen something "yield", or break from a. poor concept, b. weak or poorly executed construction. A**** many things, we all could benefit from knowing: how much does a 3/8 x 1" long, weld hold in steel. Seem to remember something about 6Klbs. (Do Not hold me to this!:rolleyes:) Even the pros, in the building of that baby hemi powered RP featured in TRJ a while back, built the unusual wishbones, and then loaded the Hell out of them, to see what happened. Test stuff, if it's built a bit heavier, certainly the fatigue gods will smile on your choices. Get rid of ANY stress concentration zones. Carry the weld around the corner and out into a low stress region before stopping. Physics is our friend here...maybe have a friend parallel park the rod, while you are Sherlock w/a magnifying gl***, watching the steering and checking for binding, deflecting and weak points. Having experience counts, even more than white-collar noodling.
     

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