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anyone ever see this in w.n.y.? Jalopy out of rochester

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Hollywood-East, Nov 11, 2010.

  1. Hollywood-East
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    Saw this in a shop over a yr. ago, thought it was kinda neat, but really never thought about how much work went into it.... saw it last week looking at a 40 ford pu., passed on the 40, but the guy was sure he needed to sell me somethin... the more I looked at it the more it grew on me... now that it's home and I found a good flat head, I'm ready to get this thing move'n and drive it just like you see it....well fix the few rust out's but no paint for this one... Cheers
     

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  2. Is that based on a 'T' series MG? very cool! '38 ford truck grill? Was it built with a flathead? Sorry about all the questions, I just think this car is very interesting.
     
  3. Hollywood-East
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    Ya it kinda grows on ya the more you look at it, there's a bunch of shots on my profile, 35-36 ford was what it was built on, the entire body is hand made of tubing and sheet metal, I'm thinking it was built pretty early, the krazy part is the attention to detail, they really went the whole nine yards, even put wood grain contact paper on the metal parts that you see for the top bows, I have a 35 flat head I found I'm going to use, I want to keep it as close to you see it as possible, one thing that really stands out is it has two tags one on the dash, the other on the right rear, one is in russian, the other polish, something to do with oil levels, and check regularly or something like that? was the builder in the service? Cheers
     

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  4. I'd have to call it "Wyprozniac"!
     
  5. boldventure
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    Thank goodnes for google...
    "wypróżnić" English translation

    wypróżnić {vb} (also: opróźnić)
    to empty {vb}
     
  6. Dan859
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    You're right about the Russian; "уровень масла", (ouroven masla) is oil level, "высокий" (visokee) is high, and "низкий" (nezkee) is low. The more I look at it, the more it looks like some sort of BMW from the back, especially the trunk and the doors. There's a 36ish BMW I've seen from time to time in Kiev, and it looks a lot like that.
     
  7. oldandkrusty
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    I'm a born-and-raised Rochestarian. Be 67 on my next B'day. Been a life long car nut, but have never, ever seen anything like that anywhere in this area. Not saying it wasn't a Rochester car, but if it was ever out on the streets and at any car shows, I'm certain I would remember it.

    Any other Rahchacha guys got any ideas?
     
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  8. Hollywood-East
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    was said to have been sitting for years in a trucking yard in roch., some guy bought it, took it all apart, put it in his basement, then a car guy found out about it , bought it for the banjo steering wheel, So you know he probably paid $50.00 for the whole car, there are a few oil change stickers on one of the int. piece's, one had the date 11/12/62 Krazy because if you saw this car weather you liked it or not, you would not forget it... keep hoping someone can give some history on the builder, I'm telling you there was a Lot of craftsmenship involved here... The kool part is I have a True built"hot rod" that will live again! Cheers
     
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  9. Hollywood-East
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    Dan859, what does Godzin mean? I have no idea how you would type in some of the letters of that tag...
     
  10. Mr48chev
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    I'd say it was a "build it yourself" sports car done in the late 40's or very early 50's.Mechanics illustrated and other do it yourself oriented magazines from that era had a number of build your own sports car out of an old car articles and how to's.

    In the late 50's early 60's I lived in a house on Olympus Beach on Bainbridge Island Wa that had a hall closet full of early 50's Popular Mechanics magazines and there were photos of similar cars in some of them. There was even a how to on using a similar chassis in one of them.
    Cool find, now do it justice in the rebuild.
     
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  11. Hollywood-East
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    Mr48, That's what I was thinking, period wise, and the same with a do it yourself in PM or mechanix illustrated.... here's a shot of the 35 flatty I found this week... the one thing I do need to find is the right front seat's not sure what yet, wish I could find a set out of an old sprite or something along those lines, dout they would have ran a bench... but who knows... Cheers
     

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  12. oldandkrusty
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    Does the oil sticker have a business name on it? If so, we may be able to track the place that did the service and that might give us the area of the city the car came from.
     
  13. Hollywood-East
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    Sinclair is obvious, the one under it looks like the one that had the crazy looking dude on it?no idea on the other, None have info on them :/
     
  14. Hollywood-East
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    ahh ya, would help if I put the pic's. in....
     

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  15. Dan859
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    H.E.,
    "Gozdin" means hours, that Polish phrase translates as "Empty every 8 hours". As far as writing in a different language, you can change your language settings through the control panel of the computer, under the "regional and language" icon. That installs a little tab on your toolbar that you can use to switch to different languages. Of course, then you have to learn a new keyboard layout :).
    Your car is really interesting. Based on the design, especially the rear trunk area, I think it was originally German. The tags show it spent time in the USSR and/or Eastern Europe, before it came to the States. The tags look professionally produced, and they're in Russian and Polish. To me, this tends to indicate some sort of governmental involvement for a couple of reasons. First, private ownership of cars back then just didn't happen very often. Second, a private person, even if he did own a car, wouldn't likely get tags like that made up, and probably not in multiple languages. A governmental agency which was using foreign cars in its fleet, however, would be likely to make up tags like that to make sure the oil was checked and routine maintenance items were done. Maybe it was some sort of German staff car during the war, or maybe it was brought back to the USSR from East Germany after the war. There was also a good deal of trade between the USSR and Germany before the war as well, so maybe that's how it ended up there. At any rate, the car appears to have spent some time behind the Iron Curtain before it made it over here. Are there any sort of stampings or part numbers on any of the sheetmetal for the body? The other thing you might be able to do is to search for photos of German cars from the mid to late 30's. Not just BMW and Mercedes, but other companies as well. A company named Horch (sp) made cars back then and they specifically made staff cars for the German army. FWIW, there used to be a hot rod show every summer in Greece, NY, back in the late 80's. I never saw anything like that car at any of those shows. Also, where is Waterpot, NY? I know where's Waterport, but not Waterpot.
     
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  16. choppedtudor
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    Rochester here..never seen that one around. Funny thing, my mother grew up in Waterport, and my grandfather had a service station there....small world.
     
  17. Hollywood-East
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    Dan,Waterport is around Albion, You know where Amy Fisher was penned up, The entire body is/was hand made except the rear fenders,the grill, and the frame for the glass(windshield) My thoughts were that a guy might have been in the service and came home with the tags, Now what they are from? Who knows, russian tank, porta-potty... The station is still there in Waterport, guy that owns it won the lotto in Ca., Freddy, Sunoco sign still there also., I'm really in Carlton, Big stone building on the Ho-Jack line... Cheers
     
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  19. Dan859
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    H.E.,
    Yes, that question was about your avatar saying "Waterpot". I know the area pretty well, I lived in Kendall for 15 years :). I know Carlton, and spent a lot of time fishing Oak Orchard and the lake. If the body is hand made, you've totally got me. As far as where the tags came from, I don't know. On the Russian one, there is somthing written at the lower right corner, but I can't make it out. I wish I could help you more.
    Dan
     
  20. Hollywood-East
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    Damn It... Thanx!, Handeled... to many fumes over the yrs.
     
  21. plym_46
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    Kinda look like a home made Willys jeepster. Can you Id the frame?
     
  22. oldandkrusty
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    Sorry, I tried to read the stickers you included but could not. I don't think it is my old eyes, but you never know.

    Can you just include the station's name in a response?
     
  23. cheveey57
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    looks alot like an MG from the side & the rear.
     
  24. buford36
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    Hollywood-East, check your PM's
     
  25. Hollywood-East
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    UPDATE: Thanks to Buford36 for getting me in touch with his Uncle that owned the trucking yard!, Here's some back ground, cars was said to be built in Germany, soldier brought it back...Needed a more practical car for a new family(never heard that one before) Trades it in at Vincent Buick in E. Rochester(closed 10 yrs. ago), one of the salesmen takes it out spinning tires breaks the rear axle, wholesale guy ends up with it and takes it to said trucking yard, wholesale guy ends up getting busted by the irs, time frame 1968, Fellow that owned the trucking yard hauled cars for said salesmen, was owed $ and ended up with this car, he sold the car in about 1988, to a guy on the W. side of Rochester who took it apart and stuffed it in his basement....A few years back it ended up in the corner of the shop I found it.... The Power of the Hamb
     
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  26. Hollywood-East
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    been a min., kix it back to the top...
     
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  28. Hollywood-East
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    Gotta try rite! couple times a yr., Someone has got to know this car.... Cheers
     

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