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Technical Anyone have a review on Painless 30001 wiring panel

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  1. 6inarow
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    Any reviews on this? Or the 30003 or 70207? All basically the same it looks like except number of circuits.
     
  2. pprather
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    Painless panels are generally known to be good quality.
     
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  3. skooch
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    I’ve got a painless setup, don't remember which one. Very simple install and the instructions are great. All the wires are attached to the fuse box and if you buy one with more circuits than you need you will end up with a mess of wires bundled up under your dash unless you cut them.
    Any manufacturer who comes up with a similar setup with wires that clip in so all unnecessary wiring could be easily removed would have a winning product.
     
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  4. Dan Hay
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    I did my first wiring job with their products and it was… dare I say it?
    Painless.
     
  5. swade41
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    Painless makes a good product, I used one of these type in my t-bucket and a couple other Painless universal pre wired kits.
     
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  6. pprather
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    American Autowire panels have a screw wire connector for each circuit.
    Unused circuits, wire is stored in the shipping box.
     
  7. Mr48chev
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    The 30001 is a replacement 14 fuse block for an existing wiring system or kit.
    https://painlessperformance.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/30001-1.pdf

    The 30003 is a replacement 20 fuse block for an existing wiring kit or to replace a factory fuse block
    https://painlessperformance.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/30003.pdf

    The 70207 kit is an add on heavy duty block that you use with the other kit . https://painlessperformance.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/07/70207.pdf

    Again no wiring in any of those three kits as they are just fuse blocks.

    The main thing that I have seen with Painless universal kits with wire is that They may be a bit too universal for some folks to deal with.
    Example the 10102 kit that is 21 circuits https://www.summitracing.com/parts/...6r86v0ifkvohBT0d04wVSGRRCdbMvYVIaAms-EALw_wcB

    Instructions for the 10103 and two others https://painlessperformance.com/wp-content/uploads/woocommerce_uploads/2023/11/90625-6vvhqw.pdf
    The instructions are excellent and complete but you have to stay on track with what kit you have, with what ignition system you have and staywith what charging system and starting system you have as it has instructions for all. I've spent a few hour sorting though them to come up with an answer for someone who was having trouble figuring thing out. The instructions are there normally and quite well written but it is easy to get lost if you are not paying close attention.
     
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  8. 6inarow
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    @Mr48chev are these (30003 and 30001)stand alone panels you can just run wires from??

    @pprather I looked through their website and only say the nostalgia kit. But at $2k it seems awefully expensive. Is there something else?
     
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  9. I personally would try from another company. I have a painless harness in my 53 bel air and it DOES work well. But the quality is nowhere near the price. Had I not bought it second hand new in box I would have went with a different company. My particular harness I gave $100 but online they charged like $900 for what I had. Again good stuff just overpriced
     
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  10. skooch
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    There seems to be some apples and oranges comparisons going on. Standard kits are very reasonable.
     
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  11. Happydaze
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    American Autowire Nostalgia kit contains the cloth covered wiring, and hence the cost, but I didn't realist it was now quite that costly! I have one and would never buy another but would get the plain wiring version in a heartbeat. The cloth covered is difficult to work with and on mine the actual wire strands were tarnished (their tech said it was ok). I have virtually no exposed wiring so the traditional vibe is solely for my personal pleasure, but more like pain! There shouldn't be any difficulty in locating an AAW kit with regular wire. Also, do buy their crimper, about $100. There are a number of large terminals with doubled up wires that regular crimper won't work with, even the multi jaw ratcheting type.

    Chris
     
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  12. K13
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    Have you looked at Rebel Wire? Kits are reasonably priced they will build to your needs if you call them and hands down the best customer service I have ever had from a company when trouble shooting.
     
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  13. pprather
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  14. swade41
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    I used a Rebel Wire in my Henry J, a 12+3 kit I believe, the 3 is an extra add on I had intended to run fuel pump and fan but just used the regular 12 circuits.

    If you're handy the XJ jeep Cherokee has an auxiliary fuse panel under the hood that I think is 12 circuit, you can remove it and the ***ociated wiring to make a cheap OEM quality harness.

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  15. Mr48chev
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    Yes those panels are add on or upgrade panels with no wires that you use your wires on. The 14 circuit and 20 circuit ones aren't much less than a complete universal kit though. that 10101 kit being 259.95 through Summit.
    The highest price Rebel Wire universal kit that I find is 378 for their American muscle car kit and that one has a lot of things most guys with pre 65 rods or customs don't need. https://www.parts123.com/parts123/yb.dll?parta~partsort

    What you do get for that extra money for what ever kit they have is a tech line that will answer questions and one of the guys who answers the questions is a member. They also include things that the inexpensive kits may not have and you have to pay extra for. (you can get Painless kits at O'Reilly's)
     
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  16. 05snopro440
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    It's not clear from the part numbers you asked for reviews on, what are you trying to accomplish? Are you just wanting a new fuse panel that you can run wires to? The printed wires in these kits makes troubleshooting heck of a lot easier.

    I bought a kit like this for my roadster, they're pretty bare bones but you can add sections to the fuse box if you need more at any time.
     
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  17. 6inarow
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    Hey thanks for the post 05snopro440. I am looking to keep a 40s-50s style car from the appearance but have as many upgrades to make the thing safe. 6 cylinder, dropped axle, 6 lug wheels, discs. You get the idea. So I want to get the safety of a more modern panel but maybe run some nostalgic cloth wiring in things you see. I want bright lights, no ammeter, battery disconnect and the like. I was thinking one of these panels might do the trick. Ron Francis has a Bare Bonz one that you can wire this way too. I dont want the pre connected harness.
     
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  18. 05snopro440
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    Yeah, unfortunately the cheapest cloth one I found was this speedway one, and it's pre-connected to the fuse panel so not quite what you want.

    Ron Francis sells just the panel too. For your purpose, the Painless panel should work just fine. If you need more for instructions than the bare panel gives they have all their instructions online.
     
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  19. 325w
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    Painless has changed a lot from the beginning. Tech people have really changed. Have toured the plant several times. Guy that started it knew his business. For simple that works. Rebel.
     
  20. 6inarow
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    Does Rebel have a panel with no prewired circuits?
     
  21. 325w
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    Call the tech line and see. I’ve got a small fuse box only five fuses I think
     
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  22. pprather
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