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Anyone know Sam Moon aka Moon Man?

Discussion in 'Questions & Suggestions' started by marylandmuscle, Apr 7, 2009.

  1. marylandmuscle
    Joined: Nov 28, 2007
    Posts: 65

    marylandmuscle
    Member

    Anybody familiar with Sam Moon, aka Moon man, an Alliance member with 500 posts?

    Paid for a set of flathead manifolds on 02/23/2009 and as of 04/07/2009 still not received. Last contact was 03/23/09 where I was told they were sent to the wrong address, this followed the prior email I got that he had been sick for a week. (have all documentation)

    Payment was sent to: Jessamyn Nalepa.

    Would appreciate any information before I have to track him down.

    Thank you
     
  2. marylandmuscle
    Joined: Nov 28, 2007
    Posts: 65

    marylandmuscle
    Member

    Another week and still no manifolds. Now Sam has over 500 posts and 31 friends. Does anyone on this site think its right for him to stiff another person, take their money and not send the item?

    Sam's excuses in order are:

    1) I have been sick

    2) i accidentally mailed it to myself,

    3) I have been indisposed for several weeks.

    I have full documentation on everything-

    So if you are a friend of Sam's, you should message him. Unless you think its OK for him to scam someone. And btw, I will go after him, even though the amount is only $60 to save one of you guys from being the next one to be scammed.

    Until then I remain Scammed by Sam
     
  3. hotrod-Linkin
    Joined: Feb 7, 2007
    Posts: 3,382

    hotrod-Linkin
    Member

    my wife shops at sam moon's.any relation?
     
  4. marylandmuscle
    Joined: Nov 28, 2007
    Posts: 65

    marylandmuscle
    Member

    He has a hot rod shop and a lot of excuses. If your wife paid for something and he took her money and gave her a lame excuse and didnt give her her merchandise for nearly 8 weeks? Bingo- Same guy.
     
  5. NortonG
    Joined: Dec 26, 2003
    Posts: 2,117

    NortonG
    Member Emeritus

    Have you pm'ed the mods?

    Thanks for the warning about this guy.

    Norton
     
  6. hotrodladycrusr
    Joined: Sep 20, 2002
    Posts: 20,765

    hotrodladycrusr
    Member

    Ryan takes these matters seriously. You are not the first one on here with issues from Moon. PM him for assistance.
     
  7. dannyego
    Joined: Mar 12, 2008
    Posts: 1,387

    dannyego
    Member

    glad I passed on doing business with him not too long ago.
     
  8. marylandmuscle
    Joined: Nov 28, 2007
    Posts: 65

    marylandmuscle
    Member

    Thanks- I will forward the PM string to anyone who would like to see it.

    I havent PM'd the Mods only because they might be a little easier on him then I will be:)

    Its a small amount, but its important that he doesnt get the next guy. My background is Finance and Business Law, so chasing Sam wont be that hard actually.

    Dave F
     
  9. retro54
    Joined: Apr 1, 2004
    Posts: 735

    retro54
    Member
    from PA

    I too have issues with moon man, with just about the same timeline you have indicated. I have sent you a PM outlining the issue.

    I have also Sent Ryan a PM outlining my issues, and have filed a complaint with paypal, and am doing everything in my power to resolve the situation.

    Grumpy, I also sent you a PM, maybe you could help us both out.
     
  10. gunk
    Joined: May 17, 2008
    Posts: 248

    gunk
    Member
    from phoenix

    I had similar problems, and he used the same bullshit excuses. He did final refund my payment after months. I don't think he is out to screw anyone, just not responsive. Get your money back, if you can, move on. Also PM Ryan.
     
  11. 562roadster
    Joined: Mar 2, 2008
    Posts: 1,344

    562roadster
    Member

    Same bullshit excuses! I had the same problem with him!
     
  12. marylandmuscle
    Joined: Nov 28, 2007
    Posts: 65

    marylandmuscle
    Member

    I have been very busy today chasing Mr. Moon :) I have obtained some info on him and spoke to him directly (Retro54 I mentioned your trans). For everyone who he owes something to PM me. I will provide his info, and a whole bunch more. You will be able to reach him-

    Hambers-Keep this thread alive until he squares up with your friends and other Hotrodders- I have a bunch of pm's on him already.

    I only had a small amount at risk- but if we can get you guys all squared up- Thats what i want.
     
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2009
  13. moon man
    Joined: Nov 1, 2006
    Posts: 871

    moon man
    BANNED

    sam moon here, I never ment to screw anyone. if u guys want to take a walk in my shoes or bee in the same boat I have been bee my guest. I have talked to all and told my side, I love the hamb and never ment or intended to take a long time or to screw anyone. and all I can say is marylandmuscle must have a bunch of free time and I think he is a little to extreme!!!!!!!!! But I have messed up and would like to apologize to all and hope we can be friends after all this has blown over.. thanks sam moon
     
  14. sota
    Joined: Oct 14, 2006
    Posts: 717

    sota
    Member

    Moon man, It's one thing to apologize and another thing to do the right thing and either get these folks their parts or money back to them right away.
     
  15. FORDY 6
    Joined: Oct 8, 2002
    Posts: 1,561

    FORDY 6
    Member

    "Walking in your shoes" means screwing people on parts...no excuses!
     
  16. Degreaser
    Joined: Nov 9, 2006
    Posts: 935

    Degreaser
    Member

    Sounds like bullshit to me. I can see something happening and one guy not getting his parts, but all these guy's not getting them?? C'mon man, step up and send these guys their parts. Why even attempt to sell parts if you aren't in a position to ship them?
     
  17. marylandmuscle
    Joined: Nov 28, 2007
    Posts: 65

    marylandmuscle
    Member

    My fellow Hotrodders, Thank you for your support and help. :)

    Mr. Moon has PM'd me and asked me to change my signature, and has also stated that I caused a lot of grief for him. I told him, no spologies, no "now Sam is a good guy crap", and no changes to my signature or anything else until he takes care of all the people he took advantage of. Sam is NOT a victim.

    Taking peoples money and not shipping what was agreed upon is THEFT pure and simple.

    I will only state that Sam has finally shipped when he finally does- he will get nothing else from me.

    He must accept the consequences from his actions.

    Thanks again folks.

    dave F
     
  18. Jerry Reed
    Joined: Jul 14, 2003
    Posts: 225

    Jerry Reed
    Member

    I had a kustom painted skate deck for sale awhile back. He pm'd me and said he wanted to buy it. After hanging on to the deck for over 3 weeks for him and turning down other buyers I had to relist it. I got lots of excuses and jerking around from him. I would definetly avoid selling or buying from this dude.
     
  19. sota
    Joined: Oct 14, 2006
    Posts: 717

    sota
    Member

    Sam I looked again at your post and not once did you say that your sending out the parts or giving a full refund to all those you have taken money from!So whats the deal are you going to do?
     
  20. moon man
    Joined: Nov 1, 2006
    Posts: 871

    moon man
    BANNED

    I sent pm,s to all. l.. everone will get there things or a refund so dont worry everone will be taken care of. not out to get or screw anyone. and agin if you are involved you would know.....
     
  21. retro54
    Joined: Apr 1, 2004
    Posts: 735

    retro54
    Member
    from PA

    Still am waiting on a positive resoultion of my dealings with Sam. Once I have recieved either a refund or transmission, I will post that the transaction has been completed. I am still waiting.
     
  22. airbag
    Joined: May 3, 2005
    Posts: 190

    airbag
    Member

    i had a run in with moon man, he was selling a posie rear model a spring for 125.00. i paid paypal immediately along with 50.00 to ship, i got the run around about i shipped it to the wrong place, then he was sick, then he was out of town. after about 6 weeks he told me he sent the spring and if i wanted my money back he would refund it, but i had to agree to send the spring back to him when i recieved it. i replied paypal my money back and forget the deal. he did paypal me my money back about a week later, and needless to say i never recieved the spring (he already shipped), so i could send it back to him. there may be a chance for you guys but do not hold your breath. i would consider myself lucky. i can give you my opinion: DO NOT DEAL WITH THIS GUY.
     
  23. marylandmuscle
    Joined: Nov 28, 2007
    Posts: 65

    marylandmuscle
    Member

    Interesting thats he's an Alliance member with nearly 500 posts-If he's engaged in this type of behavior on a regular basis (seems he has), I am surprised the HAMB doesnt revoke his membership and ban him from the site-seems like a lot of users have had problems with him.

    I'll either receive my manifolds, get my money back or go after he and Jessamyn Nalepa (she collects direct payments for him).

    If anyone needs info on him, PM me- You'd be amazed at what I have collected on him in a few days.

    Lotsa info out there on on you Sam :)
     
  24. adavis
    Joined: Oct 13, 2006
    Posts: 533

    adavis
    Member

    I don't suppose Mr. Moon knows Joseph Grey, does he? :) Marylandmuscle....if you have some advice for those of us dealing with Mr. Grey I'd love to hear it. The HAMB is too cool for guys like this.
     
  25. moon man
    Joined: Nov 1, 2006
    Posts: 871

    moon man
    BANNED

    all was returned and refounded all 4... I read about joe and see never once did see Marylandmuscle try to help there ,, and have herd nothen else from him... and no I dont deal with mr grey...
     
  26. retro54
    Joined: Apr 1, 2004
    Posts: 735

    retro54
    Member
    from PA

    I did recieve my refund from Moon man last friday, just waiting for it to clear through paypal, once it does I was going to post here, but to concur with moonman, I did recieve my refund, just waiting for it to clear for it to be official, due to paypal waiting periods... I regret it took as long as it did, but am pleased that the issue between us is resolved.
     
  27. marylandmuscle
    Joined: Nov 28, 2007
    Posts: 65

    marylandmuscle
    Member

    Well Sam have been out of town on business so havent had a chance to notify everyone that as of 04/22/09 I STILL DONT HAVE THE DAMN MANIFOLDS.
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2009
  28. marylandmuscle
    Joined: Nov 28, 2007
    Posts: 65

    marylandmuscle
    Member

    And by the way as I promised I will say nothing favorable about you, you took my money and that of others, you provided multiple bogus excuses, you would not respond to calls, and when I finally tracked you down through your father, you said you didnt even have the $15 to ship the manifolds.

    Do not try to act like the victim- You are so very close to having been turned into IC3, the Cortland Ohio PD, and USPS for Mail Fraud- I was dealing with an attorney on a subpoena last week and you are quite fortunate that I chose to withhold discussion of you for a few days.

    Adavis, I will contact you directly to assist regarding Joseph Grey.

    Stay humble Sam, attitude will get my attention, and trust me you really dont want that.
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2009
  29. Ryan
    Joined: Jan 2, 1995
    Posts: 22,076

    Ryan
    ADMINISTRATOR
    Staff Member

    You need to calm down homie... He's trying to make right and he will have a chance to do so.
     
  30. CURIOUS RASH
    Joined: Jun 2, 2002
    Posts: 9,635

    CURIOUS RASH
    Classified's Moderator

    And those of you have no part in this....

    STAY OUT.

    All you do is muddy the waters with your comments.
     

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