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Anyone still use a Jag rear end?

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  1. Yea we love pictures.

    It makes it easier to read!
     
  2. Weasel
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    I luv me sum *****foot - here's some pix for posterity's sake....

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  3. mgtstumpy
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    My '35 Chevy
     

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  4. 38Chevy454
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    I put Jag front and rear in my 53 GMC pickup. Not running yet, but sitting on the suspension and SBC engine and trans installed. Just trying to make a nice riding and driving cruiser truck.
     
  5. ^ ^ ^ Man those are some good lookin' *** ends. ^ ^ ^
     
  6. Very nice handling suspension.I see them on craigslist.
     
  7. Atwater Mike
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    I had one for my '55 F100 when I had the shop...was ready to cut brackets, BUT!

    I hauled so much 'machinery' in my little shop Effie I couldn't lay it up...plus, the coil-over shocks weren't up to hauling Hemis, BBC, BBF, etc.

    But now? I'm really thinking about it, a Jag would be so...VISIBLE...Plus, soft ride at my age would be welcome.
    Not many F100 drivers with Jag ****s.
     
  8. pasadenahotrod
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    from Texas

    The XK-E type rears, all with splined hubs for wire wheels, were mostly used in the hotrods in the 60s-70s-80s.
    Then the XJS sedans, all with Chevy 5 on 4.75 circle pattern hubs except with wires, became the popular item, something changes in the late 80s so pre-88? or are the better ones for early cars.
    We're just finishing up a nice 23 T turtle deck roadster with an XJS rear. All parts from Speedway available. Rotors new from NAPA, rebuilt calipers the same. Bubble flare to USA flare line fittings available NAPA.
    They are damn good looking painted too. We're using the four shocks but only 2 with springs on the roadster. We'll see how that works out.
    Rears are easily found at swap meets for $300-400 complete. try and get the most complete, cleanest, and unbolted units rather than the quick and dirty torch removals with cut up track bars and cage supports and crushed brake lines, etc.
    Junkyards in larger cities will have them too at about the same price depending on your neighboorhood market.
     
  9. happilyretired
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    They and the Vette rears were unbeatable custom tricks for show rods. I've seen maybe 50 or so over the early years on the show circuit on the West Coast, 1968-85 era or so. The most impressive were the ones stuffed under 32 Ford Vickys, T-Buckets, and 40 Fords when you didn't expect it.
     
  10. stainlesssteelrat
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    Not a fan of em.. their for monocolor plastirods from cali. i'll stick with a 2speed banjo.
     
  11. 35 Dodge Hot Rod
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    Yeah I don't believe their popularity is very high these days. I had an IRS out of an XJ-6 all complete with the damn cage that I didn't want anymore. It took almost 2 months to find a buyer at $200. I thought I was the crazy one.
     
  12. falcongeorge
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    This sounds interesting...
     
  13. falcongeorge
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    Grabowski had one in a f100 back in the seventies. Very cool truck actually, had a lot of neat touches on it.
     
  14. yetiskustoms
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    interesting thread, is there track widths available for these? say an 86 xj for mesurement.
     
  15. gassersteve
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    I paid $43 for mine at a local pull it yourself yard on 50% off day. The lady had no idea they sell used for up to $400. I got the cage and all, forgot the driveline though.

    Delta Motorsports in Phoenix has all the parts to rebuild one of them and they are a good group of guys. Very knowledgeable about the british stuff.
     
  16. Weasel
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    Early XKE/E-Type 53" hub to hub, later SIII 56", S-Type and 420 56", XJ sedans and Mk 10 Sedan 61-3/4". Do not use any XJ Jag rearend after 1986 - (XJ40). XJS theu 1996. Ratios from 2.88 thru 3.77 that I know of. Powrlok (posi) and non posi....
     
  17. mgtstumpy
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    A few more
    E-Type S1 & 2 50"
    E-Type S3 54"
    S-Type 54"
    420 54"
    Mark X 58"
    420G 58"
    XJ6 & 12 S1-3 58"
    XJS 58"
    Daimler DS420 58"
     

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  18. woodbox
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    Here is the one i used in my 46 back in the 90's. Rode really well handled excelent......but I should have mounted the head centre on some bushes of some kind. Mine was mounted solid to the crossmember and transmitted waaaaaayyyy too much noise through to the car. I thought it was ******ed and swapped it out for another head........just as noisey!
    Friends just finished a 1930 willy's sedan and mounted the head on bushes and it is really quiet. There was a ****** good reason why Jag mounted the whole lot in a rubber mounted cage!!
    One trap I see a lot of people falling into is, setting up the trailing arm from the outer end of the lower arm, to the ch***is forward , too short and not pivoting at the front mount point in line with the pivot points of the inner ends of the lower arm (making a big triangle). if this is not done correctly and rod ends are used instead of bushings the rear will "steer" when going over bumps or accelerating hard (many AC Cobra's do this!)

    You can see in the pictures below how I made my trailing link long and pivoting on the same plane as the inner end of the lower arms, completing a triangle.

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    I also narrowed this rear end to suit the 46. This was made easy because the half shafts were tube not solid as some models use. So it was a matter of shortening two half shafts and the lower arms by the same amount.
     
  19. GasserTodd
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    Im one of those "over 50" types who still use the Jag suspension.

    Have Jag front & rear suspension in a 48 Chev Pickup. Jag rear is still in the cage and rubber mounted as per the XJ6 it came from. Truck has a rear pan so you really cant see much.

    And have a 37 Nash sedan with Jag front & rear too. Rear is out of the cage & all shiney & deatailed with a quickchange type cover. Car is probably too low for most to see all the work that went into it.

    Down here, whole Jags near death, sell for $500-$1000 so front & rear ends are a cheap option for us and the Australians over the ditch.
     
  20. Well there must be some people in the "outside" world reading this thread because I'm starting to see a bunch of these Jag rear ends showing up on Craigslist.
     
  21. need louvers ?
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    It will be! A Steve Archer gl*** body that has waited it's turn for almost forty years now. The client wants to stick pretty close to a rather well publicized Fad touring from the late sixties/early seventies, so it's a bit newer that my tastes but should be cool.
    When i get going on this one I'll post some picts here.
     
  22. handmedown40limited
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    I am planning a new ch***is with JAG front and rear for my 40 buick. Also have a line on a 51 Chevy Ad truck I am thinkin about doin this too
     
  23. pasadenahotrod
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    When getting a Jag rear always try to have the cage unbolted at the body and the floor where the trailing arms mount and the brakelines intact.
     
  24. handmedown40limited
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    Thanks for the advise Pasadena. With both projects I will be buyin complete parts cars. The truck will also get brake booster MC and pedal ***embly and probably front seats along with other bits and pieces. Wish the JAG came with a 5 speed because i am going to have the figure out a clutch pedal. Probably just ad from the one ***embly I don't use.

    I am going to be soft mounting the whole asembly front and rear on both cars. Should drive nice
     
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  25. choke
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    I just did one last year under a model A sedan. We took a Vette rear end out that was done in the 70's. I narrowed it and mini-tubbed the body.
     

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  26. johnod
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    Are gear sets available, other than stock jag ratios?
     
  27. timothale
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    I am over 70, and attended old school. My son put jag rear under his 22 dodge lakester, we have 4 jag xjs rears, 2 xjs fronts and 2 fj40 fronts in the shop< I plan on using the fj fronts under my 32 roadster and my 29 nash roadster. I plan on building my own front crosmembers similar to the ones K & K Custom crosmembers builds for the early design jags. WE paid normally $ 100 for front or rear, we pull. I bought the CCR T bucket plans several years ago, they had plans and paterns for jag rears
     
  28. Hope you do a build thread.
     
  29. '49 Ford Coupe
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    Hi, Guys...

    Well, for what it's worth...

    This is the link for rebuilding my '85 XJS to go into my 1949 Shoebox Coupe.
    Be sure to "go upstream" on the sub-album to see the building of the ch***is and prepping the body. Just a couple of days ago, I got the ch***is back under the body and set the body down on it. Today I'll be jacking it back up with weight set on wheel mounts, relieve the body stresses, and measuring all 26 body mount locations to calculate spacers to use on the body mount kit for the car. I guess I'd also qualify for "old guys building rods" thread.. ahahah

    Bookmark this and keep up with progress..

    http://s28.photobucket.com/user/Pau.../Rebuilding the JAGUAR rear end?sort=6&page=3
     
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