Apple computer guys, need your advice.

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>> 16 years I've been on PCs and never had a virus or spyware.<<



Does that pc computer use any "protection" ?

Just bought my first pc to power our mobile internet cafe on wheels.... and there's this little warning message from Microsoft down in the lower right hand corner that says to me every time I turn it on that hey I might be in danger 'cause I don't have a Antivirus program installed. "Never needed one for the Mac" that little voice in my head chuckles.

In all seriousness I sorta understand the rules of safe surfing, we only use these computers for work. Thankfully there's no time for xxx websites or risky downloads.... we live right at the river and have plenty of recreational options.





Ramblin Randy
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"When in doubt... always net that one eyed trouser trout...!!!!"

 

Cant go wrong with any kind of Mac. Ive had about 5 or 6 throughout the years and my family total has had about 15 or so. Had one of my G4 Powermacs for 7 years, dint have ANY virus protection or anything, surfed everyday, NEVER got a virus, spyware, etc. I have a G5 now. Work like a dream.


ONCE YOU GO MAC YOU NEVER GO BACK

 

Hey again... visted your website Squirrel... spent way too much time there this morning surfing all the fun...!

As to your web page devoted to old selectrics.... good news is that I see alot of them in still plugged in at public schools and libraries.... a great little machine.

 

no, that's the wierd thing about it....no protection, no viruses.

But apparently I'm one of the very few people who can get away with it, for the rest of you guys who mysteriously attract malicious software/spyware etc, I recommend getting a Mac. After all, the Steves need the money.

 

Squirrel, if you're running such old equipment, then maybe your machines don't meet the minimum requirements for the malware to work!

(Sorry... I had to. )

 

heh....I'm in the modern age now, over two gigawhompers of cpu speed....amazing....

 

I am gonna say this and risk my wifey's job...

She works at apple.

as far as "hot rod computers" are concerned, Mac Guys, prepare to have your socks blown right the fuck off!!!!

The new stuff on the horizon will take a great big bite out of the ass of pretty much anyone that builds a p.c.

simply stated, y'all aren't gonna beleive this stuff. (and this is coming from a guy that has had the "latest" operating system sitting on a shelf,covered in dust for..around 3 years now.if that is up there, what do you think is running My wifeys work machine? )

buy a p.c.- it's good for 5 years before whatever else is avalible makes it obsolete. Buy a mac, and they actually write software to be compatible with what they were building before- and still be fast!

oh yeah...p.c. at the shop- This is what a firefighter would call a "hostile work environment"- and I don't want to fuck up a nice mac, so I sacrifice this poor bastard instead.

 

I've worked at Apple within the past 2 years. I'm shocked your wife knows something about the new stuff on the horizon... they didn't tell us guys NOTHIN'.

What in the heck does she do there, if you don't mind me asking?

~Jason

 

No need to buy a overpriced mac just to run mac os!

Heres what you do, you buy or build a machine that you can run BOTH Mac osx AND windows vista. you boot into mac os, run a program called paralells, then you can boot into windows while already booted into mac osx. Becuase we call know gaming support sucks on mac.

Go to www.youtube.com and put mac parallels its really cool!, you can flip the whole screen on the fly and do 2 different things in 2 different os's at the same time.. No need to buy horribly overpriced apple hardware

 

prepare to pay $3900 for a hot rod mac, vs a $800 hot rod PC that will run both mac and windows.

 

somewhere in my basement I have a hot rod mac from a decade ago or so....my brother paid about five Gs for it....

but he likes throwing money away

 

What???? where???? am I???

Geek Hell? what the F%$##?

The Hamb? No this ain't the hamb!! Your fu#$ing with me?

 

Apple hardware is not overpriced. You obviously have not priced name brand PC's spec for spec. Their prices are right in line with Dell, Toshiba, IBM, and the rest. Yeah you can build a PC out of bargain priced hardware but you get what you pay for. And that PC you build will not run OSX, it may initially be able to be hacked but that loophole in Darwin are pretty much closed these days and you won't get any updates for it...

LMAO... you're delusional... Mac Pro's are $2499 all day every day... iMac's under $2k all day every day.... You're using a arguement that died 7 or 8 years ago...

 

I suppose you are using your "old school" Eniac? Maybe a telegraph? It is fine to discuss computers here since it is the medium we use to communicte with each other and if it makes us high speed HAMBers then all's the better.

 

I totally agree. I run a Mac Mini too, but I got the fully loaded version, and I think it would do everything you want. Mine does everything I ask and more, and quick. My old PC was a POS, and my GF's PC laptop is also a POS.

 

the lowest tech computer I was ever able to parse a web page with was a 286, running a dos text browser. It would not be able to parse a page like this in less than a few hours, though.

I have been on the www using an XT as a terminal, running a text browser (lynx) on the ISP's machine in a unix shell....or something like that...it's been a while.

that was back when I had dialup, late 90s.

 

I still use lynx occasionally on servers. And I still read my email with pine....

 

The mac minis are very enticing for someone who just wants to buy a machine to mess around with, the price is great! But if you want a supercharged nitro hemi, your gonna have to build it yourself.

 

and then you're getting into a bunch more than $800. If you're building it for $800 you either have a bunch of the stuff already and aren't counting it or are skimping on stuff. Please see the $5k hot rod
thread...

300A were good for about 450, and the reason being is they were clocked down from the factory, they were also unstable after being clocked that high.

and the parts you buy are wingwang (I guess this is you way of saying Asian) as well. But then again the crappy component part is more with the cheap commodity PC's... on board video is only on the bottom line of machines. And I haven't seen a machine come through from a major manufacturer with anything but a brand name Hard Drive.

How? I see no difference except the processor. The quality, components, and design on the Apple machines is beating everything I see come through the door from the other manufactrurers..

 

what does it matter if the quality is high....if it becomes obsolete long before it breaks?

In my experience with old computers (like 20 years old), IBM boxes work fine after all this time, but macs die. I think I have 5 classic macs, one of which might still work, and most of my dozen old IBM boxes are still going fine with their original mobos, and I have plenty of cheezy wingwang replacements for those when they do go. it's not easy to find an aftermarket replacement board for an old mac!

anyways, it sure is fun to get the apple fans all riled up....

 

And as far as price point and supercharged Hemi. I got another server yesterday. You can't build a similar machine for less than I got it for from IBM. Core3 Duo 3.0 Ghz, 3GB of RAM, 3 143GB SAS hot swappable in a hardware RAID (5), with another as a hot spare, redundant power supplies, nice rack case with rails, CD-R/DVD,
3 years On-site service, phone support (not in India), all for $3500
and this all top of the line components. I can't build them for the same price let alone less. Same with the desktops that we have. I wrote into the technology plan that all machine get rotated out at 3 years, though really they'll probably go longer, but this way I can budget for new ones and be safe. And if you factor in your time being worth anything tracking down drivers and compatibility issues, it makes more sense to buy one, that way I can work on a real Hemi at some point, well a Nailhead really, but you get the point...

 

Because they're on 24/7 365... I don't turn my laptop off, it gets put to sleep and put in my bag but not shut off... And the Macs aren't obsolete for at least 3 years, more often longer than that... I just took the last 6 G3 Blue and Whites we had out of production, they went on line in '99....

All my old Macs still work fine, hell I have a few Apple IIe's that still work, a IIsi, etc. no problems at all... The biggest problem is if you let a machine sit for a while not plugged in the PRAM battery goes dead, it won't boot without it... as for replacement parts, don't really need them much, and when I do I can get them... you amateurs playing in the IT field, keep it up, I'll make more that way

Not riled up, just trying to keep you trolls from spreading your FUD...

But I'm thankful that I have 40+ Mac desktops and only 4 or 5 PC's or I'd not have as much time to play on the net...

 

yup, it must be fun having to work on this stuff as a job....I'll take it as a hobby instead any day!

sounds to me like I got you riled up pretty good

 

it has it's days. Right now I'm actually dealing with a bunch of legacy equipment that isn't quite up to snuff....

And I miss my cluster... (it's like a rail with 12 Hemi's)



and HPC environment...



Not really riled...

 

That is about the most kick-ass thing I've heard all day! That absolutely rocks!

I've never thought of doing that on my XT. Man, I'm such a sucker for IBM hardware, especially vintage stuff and big iron. Hell, I even have a few Selectrics around here, too!

~Jason

 

Here's a secret - I have a telco rack in my basement, loaded with cool goodies. What zman just posted is where I though I'd go with it.

Actually, if I could just get some awesome NAS RAID setup... having kids sure clogs a hard drive with pictures and movies!

~Jason

 

a couple years ago someone was serving a small web page with an XT...I can't find anything on it right now, but it was pretty neat.

 

Here's one on a Mac Plus... running off of a floppy!
http://aurejac.dyndns.org/

~Jason