Are Doug's Headers USA Made?

Last night I cooked dinner, it was MADE IN AMERICA,



no wait.............. the fish and rice came from China, and the fruit and veggies came from South America,





I'm missing Antiques Roadshow.

 

?? How does Edelbrock still do it then ?? Made here in the USA. It was a choice. I priced Doug's for my Fairlane. $ 639.00 That's a lot of Peso's boys

 

Also I looked..Sanderson Headers are made here in the USA ( according to their web site )

 

Yes, but what is the actual citizenship of their employees?
Heck, even the Rodder's Journal isn't even "made" here anymore! It's printed in China! It's a different world out there now, fellas...

 

Let's talk about the "BS" regulations. Did you know that Nixon signed the bill creating the EPA? CARB was formed in the late 1960's. Wheel polishing moved to Mexico in the '60's because of the strict air quality regulations in the LA basin. The lack of knowledge of our industry by posters on this board is really sad. I'm also tired of the cl*** warfare accusing anyone of owning a business of being a greedy fat cat.

 

I use to have a delivery van, a 1967 Chevrolet with A.I.R. !! Factory straight out of Cali... so there you have it.

 

I can by product in Stainless Steel way cheaper than chrome due to the epa/air regulations. It used to be SS was about 40% more.
Pretty much most of the accessories I sell are SS and if they are chrome, they come from Mexico.

I bet the ones who are very upset at this thread, are the ones who would love to drop down below the border for a 5K interior job for about 700-1200.

 

That is a thing of the past with the current "border wars" going on and besides it is a lot different talking about a person going over the border to have interior done by a craftsman then an entire business moving the entire operation across border that employees numerous people.

 

I always have to laugh when I see comments like this. I find it ussually comes from a management person that was jealous of the employees rights or it comes from someone that was "part of" a very weak union but never bothered to get involved.
WHAT IS A UNION? A union is nothing more than an organized group of employees speaking with one common voice. The officers are elected by the people, the by laws are written by the people, and the rewards are shared by the people. Try working for a very large, global company without the workers being organized and see where you end up. My guess would be below the poverty level with poor safety concerns, and no future. Ever wonder why America was in such better shape in the 50's and 60's? Look at many workers were union, now look at how many workers are in unions today!

 

Keep drinking the Koolaid. I work in a "very large global company" and we're losing jobs steadily to states like North Carolina that are right-to-work states. Take a look around. Maybe look up the definition of "compe***ion" while you're at it. America was doing great in the 50's and 60's because we were the sole manufacturer of basically everything.

 

I think it's pretty traditional to go to Mexico for an upholstry job, Just look at any older magazine. And I have very little problem buying stuff from a decent two way trading partner...I guess it would be a whole different story for an American company to move there to cheat the system, even if the regulations are tough. There are still plenty of states who welcome industry. (We manufacture some items right here in Connecticut, and really don't care about the Chinamen compe***ion, and at least at this point, no one is making a better product.) Glad to see guys are asking where is it made, wouldn't use a Chinese part on my Hot Rod.

 

My comment was more to the fact of we sometimes have a double standard in what we debate about, Me included. I would have a damn hard time not saving a few thousand to have an interior job done. But I don't like all the outside of the USA made stuff either.

Is that really much different than buying a set of headers made there?

We are still cutting out the AMERICAN upholterer, taking money off his plate right? Is that okay because it is Traditional?

I don't really get involved in politics and I probably shouldn't have posted what I did above, I was just trying to give a real example in the SS vs Chrome parts that affect me daily as part of my trade, or livelyhood actually.

 

Its really not the same, it would be like you going to Mexico & getting a set of "Dougs" headers cheap from the factory. Or bringing your car to a shop in San Diego and the shop taking your car to TJ for interior but charging you a higher price.
JimV

 

I see what you mean, its that they are getting it cheap but we're paying the high price.

I think in their case, with compe***ion the way it is though, if they had stayed here, to maintain profitability they would retail out too far out of reach and thus would get the business and thus fail and go out of business.

 

:d:d

 

I don't blame companies for moving to Mexico in the least. I work in the scale industry, I specialize in batching systems, counting scales and filling systems. I am in and out of shops every day, from mom and pop shops to global companies. In the 18 years I have been doing this the regulations concerning manufacturing in the US of A have become ludicrous. The amount of money it costs the shop I work for to keep up with the regulations is astounding, from the Insurance companies mandating drug testing to the Safety training programs, and ISO regulations and certifications it costs the shop 40K a year per employee, and that is not counting Workmans comp, taxes, and the general costs of fuel etc... All these costs are p***ed along to our customers but it all trickles back to the consumer in the end.

And for the made in America stance, I was at a Stant facility today that makes charcoal canisters for the big 3 They injection mold the housings ***emble and test them in house, right here in the Chicago suburbs. Guess what, 90% of the employees did not speak english, wether it be Spanish, Polish, or Indian.

 

Most of us have ancestors who came here not knowing the language...as long as those folks are legit,and pay their fair share, I am happy to use their American parts on my hotrod.

 

Employees rights? You apply to a company for a job, if you don't like the rules, the wage, the benefits, then go somewhere else. Or start your own company.
Someone starts a business, tries to hire workers, and the workers want to tell the owner how to run his company?
Like hell.

 

I laugh at some of the union shops I go to, guys taking there 15 minute smoke breaks ever 2 hours even though they don't smoke, then sitting in the ****ter of 15 minutes reading magazines. Only to go back to "Work" just in time for lunch. Then comes the 3:00 clean up so they can leave at 4:30. This on top of filling out work permits limits them to an honest 3 hours or less of work each day. I see this all the time and it makes me sick. These are the first guys to go on a picket line and strike as well.

 

1) How does the company allow this?

2) Chrome was supposedly invented in China. Just saying.

3) List any/all reasons why a company couldn't (or shouldn't) set up a plant in Liberia. i'll explain my question and my train of thought in a sec.

 

Then why do I only see this (First hand) at Union shops?

 

Hopefully you didn't think i was ****ting on unions---i've been in several myself and want to go back. What i was implying was before procedures can be put in place they---the union and company must negotiate. What i meant was how does the company end up allowing excessive "break" times, minimal work outputs etc. where it's clearly going over the line for the worker.

At my union shops we didn't have this---we worked for pay. i thought it was for for the company AND the worker. It neither went over the line for the company or the workers.

P.S. i have seen many union workers sleeping on forklifts, cranes etc. How does "management" allow this?

 

Greed and abuse of power and worker bees will always be where humans gather. So are the headers still made in USA?

 

See post #11 - first page

 

That's funny!

 

Unions are ruining this country through their current ways of business. there...I said it. I'm not saying Unions have done no right; they have done plenty of good things for the American workforce. In their current state of affairs: they are trashing this country. There is no reason why a warehouse fork lift operator should be paid $35.00 - $40.00 an hour.

 

So how'd this thread turn to another offshore ***** 'fest?

 

post #11, first page !

 

I was born in Italy....