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are there 4 bolt wheels bigger than 13"

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by wreckfixer, Sep 10, 2009.

  1. wreckfixer
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    we got back on the kids 64 Falcon, and i think it needs some bigger wheels than the original 13's I don't recall if any OEM wheels were bigger. Can someone help?
     
  2. hotrodlarry
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    Not sure what the bolt patter is on the Falcon right off my head, but check the 70's/early 80's Mustangs. They are 4 lug. So are the midsized LTD's/ Marquis wheels.
     
  3. plodge55aqua
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    If Im not mistaken 6cyl cars had 4 bolt lugs.. 8 Cyl cars had 5 bolt lugs.. I could be wrong though..
     
  4. brandon
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    aren't they the same as the later mustangs and other fox bodies...?
     
  5. R Pope
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    My '79 'Tang had 14" 4-bolt wheels.
     
  6. 55 dude
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    my 67' mustang has 14' factory wheels
     
  7. H3O
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    they made 14" for them. bolt pattern is 4 1/2". just 4 lug. might even find 15 but i know for sure they made 14". they're like 14x5.5 or 14x6.
     
  8. bbc 1957 gasser
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    my 88 has 4 lug 4 1/2 bolt pattern and they have 15 inch alum. wheels or 14 steel ..or 17 and up in after market
     
  9. Kinky6
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    '64 - '66 Mustangs had 4 bolt 14" wheels, Falcons from the same time period probably are the same.

    2 ideas: check with some Mustang restoration shops in your part of the state, see if anyone is converting a T code six to a V8 and changing out the suspension, and also check out Fordsix.com, maybe someone there will have a lead on some 14's near you.

    Good Luck, *****6 :cool:
     
  10. cruzingratiot
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    Quoting the Hollander book.
    4x4 1/2"- lug

    13 x 4" & 4 1/2"
    13 x 4" Falcon exc. S.W. & H. D.
    13 x 4 1/2 " Others
    Comet '60-64 6 cyl
    Comet '71 13" wheel
    Falcon '60-65 6 cyl
    Falcon '66 6 cyl. 2 & 4 dr Sdn.
    Maverick '70-71 13" wheel
    Mustang '65-66 6 cyl. std equip 13"

    14 x 4 1/2"
    C4DZ1007A exc. Comet & Maverick
    D0DZ1007E Comet & Maverick
    Comet '65 6 cyl
    Comet '71-72 14x4 1/2, 4 stud
    Falcon '64-65 6 cyl
    Falcon '66-67 6 cyl 2 & 4 dr Sdn
    Maverick '70 14x4 1/2
    Maverick '71-72 14x4 1/2, 4 stud
    Mustang '65-66 6 cyl. optional 14"
    Mustang '67 6 cyl.

    14 x 5"
    Chevy II '62-63
    Covair '62-64 disc. exc. fwd. cont

    Falcon '67 6 cyl exc. S.W.
    Falcon '68-70 6 cyl exc. S.W.
    Maverick '70 14x5
    Mustang '68-70 6 cyl

    14 x 6"
    D0DZ1007C
    Comet '72 14x6 4 stud
    Maverick '70 14x6
    Maverick '71-72 14x6 4 stud

    15 x 4" & 15 x 4 1/2"
    Jeep 939999
    Jeep DJ Dispatcher w/ 4 stud wheel
    IH 860221R91
    Intern'l Scout 80 & 800 4x2
    3150286 Rambler '50-57
    Willys '52-55 P***


    Paul Jug
     
  11. Judd
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    Yes I sold a 65 Comet parts car that had 4 lug 14" wheels.
     
  12. jmthehermit
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    Ford also made 14" wheels with a 4.25 bolt pattern used on some T-Birds and Granadas. Metric 108 mm.
     
  13. wicked creations
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    try ford probe gt wheels i have some on my model t with a pinto rearend. They had 15 inch 4 bolts that were a 3 spoke that you can polish
     
  14. In my experience the later Ford 4-bolt is different from the early Ford 4-bolt pattern (4.00" versus 4.25", I believe). Some of the Falcon line was available with 14" x 4.25" as said already.
     
  15. just be carefull some of those early 80's 3 spoke aluminum where a metric rim, that require a metric tire. I believe that michilen was the only company that had or has a metric tire to fit that rim still
     
  16. todd_a
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    I've bolted on wheels from a 1984 stang on a 1965 before. Fit fine. The 1965 would not work on the 1984 though because of disc brake clearance.

    Also, you can get any 4 lug up to 1993 from the stangs and it is the same bolt pattern. They made these up to 16" and you can get aftermarket wheels in that bolt pattern up to 20" if I remember right.
     
  17. 4x4.5" Mustang went up to 1993, the last year of the Fox platform. All 4, 6, and 8cyl had the same 4-lug pattern.

    Some imports have a 4x114.3mm, which is the same as the 4x4.5". Like Mazda RX-7 Base models and other rear wheel drive cars.
     
  18. wreckfixer
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    That's alot of good info,thanks.
     
  19. falconwagon62
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    yes V8's were ALL 5 lug, 4 Lug were 6 BOTH were 13" I have 2 sets of 13" 5 lug, same on a 63 Fairlane.

    Mustangs Had 14" 4 lug and 5 lug wheels, they bolt right on, if its a 4 Lug, GOTTA be the older BC, the newer BC WILL NOT FIT...

    5 lugs, yea, Bolt on new Mustang Bullitt wheels, you'll need to space it out an inch, but the 5 x 4-1/2" BC is the same...
     
  20. metalshapes
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    Fox body wheels wont fit a Falcon.

    I believe MGB does fit ( 4 bolt, 4.5 pattern ), and some late model Japanese cars.

    The Tuner guys might not be looking for 4 spoke daisy mags yet...
     
  21. hotroddon
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    The original Datsun Z Car's had 14" in the same bolt pattern. Ran them on the wifes 61 Comet Wagon
     
  22. sk8ncruz
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    got a set of like new 14" 4 bolt aluminum wheels with tires I would love to sell had them for my 66 mustang and never used them, was going to but them on my falcon project, but trying to sell the project now.
     
  23. Bassfire
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    I had a 62 Buick Skylark that had 15" 4 lug wheels but don't know if they have the bolt pattern you are looking for.
     
  24. http://www.vehicle-bolt-pattern.com/ford-lug-reference-guide.html

    79-93 Mustangs have a 108 mm bolt pattern, which is ~4.25".

    Falcons have 4.5" which is 114.3 mm.


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    4x4.5" Mustang went up to 1993, the last year of the Fox platform.
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    Also, you can get any 4 lug up to 1993 from the stangs and it is the same bolt pattern.
    >>>
     
  25. Harry Bergeron
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    Fox body offered 16 in. 4-bolt 5-spoke "Pony" aluminum wheels for 1993,
    fairly attractive.
    85-93 Fox bodies had different 15 inch aluminum wheels, "10-hole" and the very ugly "turbine" style.
    84-up 4-cylinder mustangs had steel wheels, 14 inch I'm guessing.
     
  26. Spity
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    [​IMG]
    I was winterizing the car and pulled the front wheels off, and took a snap half way through they are now sitting in my garage 4 sale. I bought these last year they are "Ansen Sprint" knock offs made by american racing.
    American racing makes several wheels that fit the 4 lug pattern your after. Mine are 15x7 with 4 inch back space.

    They also make the ugly outlaws, and outlaw IIs in 4x114.3 You can also type in your bolt pattern in summits website and they give you a bunch of options.
    [​IMG]

    You can also buy Adapters that bolt on and change your bolt pattern to 5 lug, and then just order your wheels with the extra backspace of the adapter. I talked to a guy who sold Cloys wheels and he said alot of guys are doing it who are cursed with 4 lug and want something different.
     
  27. GTS225
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    Here ya go......scroll down about halfway and you get a chart with pics. All of the rims listed are for cars with 4x4.5" pattern. I found it when looking for rims for an O/T car.
    http://kmhafer.datsun510.com/wheelFAQ.htm

    Roger
     
  28. hugh m
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    Some of the early Nash Ramblers had 4 lug 15" wheels that would fit a Falcon, used them on my 283 powered Falcon, were easy to find in the sixties, and worked well.
     
  29. farna
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    1950-55 Nash Ramblers used the four lug 15" wheels, but they are NARROW!! 4"-4.5" at the most. Were made for a 6.40x15 tire. The Nash service manuals don't give any wheel specs, just tire size.

    All the 56-57 Ramblers (larger, 108" wheelbase -- the 50-55 Nash Rambler had 100" WB except for the 55 four door) I've seen had five lugs, that isn't mentioned in the service manuals either, and my parts books only go back to 1960.
     
  30. Little Wing
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    Chevy nova and early Volvo fits Ford
     
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