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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by 31Vicky with a hemi, Jul 22, 2017.

  1. I've been trying to do this with a part. I've met nothing but resistance.
    This is 5 year old video and technology.

    I really need it to happen, everyone I've spoke to says no, that can't be done. It's obvious I've not talked to the right folks or it's fantasy.

     
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  2. theHIGHLANDER
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    Here in Motown there's several folks who do this, both at home and in companies. I'll get with a friend of mine and get a short list for you. I'm shocked it can't be done in Cleveland. My friend is gone for the weekend but as soon as I can I'll get back to ya. What is it you want to make?
     
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  3. RMONTY
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    What part you wanting to make?
     
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  4. The 39 guy
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    Great technology for those that can afford it!
     
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  5. topher5150
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    if I had any money to invest I would love to get something like this maybe a couple of 3D printers, a small CNC mill and make reproduction parts.
     
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  6. Call Jay :)
     
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  7. Atwater Mike
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    But...What IF the owners/operators simply take the part, dupe it, and deliver it for a low 'one off' flat rate?

    We've seen this happen as machines 'age' in the electronic world...
     
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  8. Petejoe
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    Very expensive, found an outfit willing to make some rare old 200 yr old door keys this way thinking it would be the most reasonable approach.
    2200 for 3 keys!
     
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  9. Around here,,,They kinda do something that's sorta like it, but not really. The biggest names around here said their scanners ****, make junk files that take forever to fix by manual operations. Their printers won't do what needs to be done, are too small or too slow.

    One outfit said they would reverse engineer the part - $ 5000.00. Then Set it up in their cad files and 3D print the actual sand core and molds foundry ready for $350 a set.

    Their reverse engineering isn't the magical scanner as seen on TV, it's a guy with the part, a set of calipers, a layout table and a CAD program.


    I've been contemplating calling Jay and see if he can help. I tell myself "he's not going to help you" but ya never know till you try.
     
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  10. Budget36
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    Maybe contact the two companies via their webites that were in the video, see if they will have a list of who they sold to that does outside/retail work?
     
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  11. topher5150
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    I could probably get that timing chain cover drawn up in about an hour or two
     
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  12. wojojo
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    Jay Leno could easily afford that. :D
     
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  13. That's Monday's plan.
     
  14. Although they don't say how expensive or cheap it is to produce the part being showcased- they do allude that it's MUCH cheaper than an estimated $2500 to have that same part machined.
    Creative editing ? I don't know
     
  15. Scuttle is, the Cleveland Clinic has been experimenting with this technology for a few years for a wide variety of uses.
    But again, the Clinic can afford it 10 fold.
     
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  16. theHIGHLANDER
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    My friend set up to make 2 Corvair emblems. All in he said about $400. Would cost more than that to replate the originals due to pitting. The scan and the operator need to have a sense of how much bigger to 3D print the part to allow for shrinkage at the foundary stage. That's all I recall as it was a few months back.
     
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  17. cretin
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    We just had some scanning done, to CNC cut a station buck. Their scanner was the Kinect from an Xbox. We also have a scanner that attaches to a iPad that we scanned me with. Worked pretty well.

    Rod Emory might be able to point you in the right direction. I'm pretty sure he has a Faro arm, so he might also have some other resources.
    https://www.emorymotorsports.com
     
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  18. gnichols
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    So, what's the more expensive part of the operation, the scans / 3D masters (with shrinkage allowances) needed to create perfect master(s) for the castings, or the actual cost of the metal / foundry time? Just wondering, Gary
     
  19. You might try contacting your local University Engineering Dept., as they often look for smaller/one off projects for the students to work on and would likely have access to the scanning equipment needed for the job. Good luck in your search!

    Dave
     
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  20. partsdawg
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    My wallet shrinks just thinking about the cost.
     
  21. mgtstumpy
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    There are companies down here that convert late models from LHD to RHD and use that technology to mirror components for reproduction in RHD. e.g. RHD steering rack housing, AC/heater boxes and other parts are then manufactured. That's why late model RHD US pickups and cars are so expensive down here, 3 x times OEM price but RHD in $AUD. :eek::eek:
     
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  22. Jay Adonis, :D I wonder what it costs to goof off with one of these machines.
    You could have a lot of fun, limited only by your wallet, and imagination.:rolleyes:
    I'd be making finned engine parts, all day long.
     
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  23. Thank you!

    I've Tried the
    LCC FabLab
    and
    Case western reserve ThinkBox.

    Both are Amazing facilities, yet while the administration faculty or students are holding the part they look bewildered. Their reply is basically some form "it aint gonna happen".
     
  24. Just Gary
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    Me too...:cool:

    And then one-off 8x2 Chrysler Hemi intake manifolds... With fins... and lightening holes... And maybe louvers too... And... And...:rolleyes:
     
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  25. cretin
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    Also, a friend of mine sent me a photo of a wrench he 3D printed today. I don't think he has and scanning capabilities, but maybe he could help out. He's in Florida. Not sure what size your part is.


    Sent from my iPhone using H.A.M.B.
     
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  26. SR100
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    Invest $40-85K for the Faro Arm, $13-18K for the GeoMagic, $1900/yr for Autodesk Inventor, $33K for the high-end 3D printer, lots of supplies & several months of training and practice and you too can print relatively simple parts.
    Jay didn't print a mold and then cast the part, he printed it in metal. Far cheaper than printing a mold & having a casting made, but if you are considering a run of parts, the value proposition flips.
    I don't know what part 31Vicky is looking to make, but with industrial-grade equipment and expertise, it is probably doable. At this stage, however, it is a seller's market and prices are relatively dear.
     
  27. That whirlygig gear tree printed in one piece doesn't seem simple, kind of mind blowing actually to think it prints moving parts. How much does that cost ???

    That video and technology is 5 years old, you'd figure that stuff would be in Walmart and tractor supply across the isle from the dog food by now. Todays cutting edge stuff might be top secret.



    I've spoken with the #1 company here involved with rapid prototyping and production R&D. They seem to not be capable or they are unaware that they are able to serve this market sector. It shouldn't matter much if it's space shuttle parts, lawnmower parts, artificial joints, prosthetics, or composite firearms, Bugatti parts, or whatever the hell else you want.
     
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  28. David Gersic
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    I looked in to this for some non car parts once. For a relatively low price, you can ship your part to an Indian or Chinese service company. They'll do the scanning or reverse engineering, and turn out the AutoCad files you need. For another fee, they'll mill molds for you out of aluminum or steel (I was looking to reproduce an injection molded part).


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  29. seb fontana
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    Yes, do you want to reproduce a part or prototype some thing new? Maybe I can help on the machining end..
     
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  30. It's a not too complicated water crossover.

    All I need a plastic copy, and I need it right now. It can be solid at this time as well.

    If it can be metal, and hollow all the better and I'll take it. But all I need is a plastic copy

    image.jpeg image.jpeg
     
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