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Astro van subframe on a 48-52 ford f1 frame?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by iwanaflattie, May 31, 2011.

  1. George/Maine
    Joined: Jan 6, 2011
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    That coe is realy a large cab.Anyway i did find out what this truck around here is running,Its a Dodge one ton pickup chassic with desiel engine looks cool and he has a fifth wheel hookup.
     
  2. iwanaflattie
    Joined: May 14, 2011
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    George Maine Will you take a picture for me please???I would love to see what It looks like.
    I will start mocking my coe soon
     
  3. iwanaflattie
    Joined: May 14, 2011
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    So I tried swapping the whole 3/4 ton chevy dually Hub Assembly to the astro Arms.I think I could be done but I need to change a couple of things.
    1st the upper bolt and the lower bolt the hold the "hub assemblie" are different sizes and the plate that hold these bolts are riveted so I dont think is a good idea to swap them and use 8 grade bolts.or IS IT????
    I also need TO CUT the coil spring to bring the
    'arms" closer so I can bolt everything back.
    other than that I think it would work.
    I will also try to swap just the discs.
    This is the whole dually assembly on the astro arm.

    The last picture shows why I need to cut the spring and why I need the 3/4 dually bolt(the astro's is too short and too thin) <fieldset class="fieldset"><legend>Attached Images</legend> [​IMG] [​IMG] [​IMG]
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  4. iwanaflattie
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    Back to the drawing board.
    scratch the astro/f1 frame.
    Im using a 3/4 ton chevy dually.
    Now.I can use the astro van steering box and steering set up BUT:I would need to notch the frame to fit the astro steering box inside the frame rail.
    If I notch the frame rail it would weaken it,so I would have to reinforce it somehow.
    The frame rail that I would notch only holds the sway bar but nothing else.
    also I would need to move the front crossmember about two inches or fab a new one.

    I could use the stock chevy steering box and get u joints or expensive "burgersomething" joints.but the joints would still bind some and i would not be happy with the angle.
    Thoughts????
     
  5. iwanaflattie
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  6. spiderdeville
    Joined: Jun 30, 2007
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    from BOGOTA,NJ

    very close to a gen 2 camaro ...wide track
     
  7. Bar Ditch
    Joined: Aug 1, 2011
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    from Tacoma

    Chevy box vans have a heavy duty front end with a van style steering box. Should be perfectly capable of holdin the weight. The track width should be within reason.LB
     
  8. RMR&C
    Joined: Dec 26, 2009
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    from NW Montana

    Seth, personally I would stay with the truck steering box. It fits and will work correctly. You will likely have to fab a steering shaft with a couple joints, but that really isn't to tough. Tip: many older foreign vehicles have columns with u joints built onto them....if you can find one you like....check out the junkyards. Borgeson has ones that mate different splines together.

    I am following your build to get ideas for mine! It is very similar.....
     
  9. iwanaflattie
    Joined: May 14, 2011
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    Guess u are right why reinvent the wheel.how's that Coe coming
     
  10. PhilJohnson
    Joined: Oct 13, 2009
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    Way too wide.

    What are you after, disc brakes, a smoother ride, or higher load capacity? There are easier ways of doing those things besides a front clip swap. Myself, I'd get a straight axle from a newer bread van or a Chevy 3500 HD and have it narrowed and call it a day. You'll gain both weight capacity and front disc brakes. Plus you don't have to hack the shit out of the factory clip. And it's a lot faster than welding up a different front clip.
     
  11. iwanaflattie
    Joined: May 14, 2011
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    Phill Johnson.
    I might confused all of youse.
    I am using an entire chevy 3/4 ton cassis and drive train.The only thing I am trying to fit in is the Astro van steering box and arms etc.
    My 81 chevy truck donor didnt come with a steering bow so it seemed easy to try nd fit the astro van steering box that I had.
    I didnt think about the astro van not being strong enouhg for the 3/4 ton truck.
    I wont be using this truck to haul very heavy loads unless I have to.
    SO...I am going to have to bite the bullet and buy the 81 steering box.
     

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