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Attention Pennsylvanians !!!!!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Al Consoli, May 9, 2008.

  1. the SCROUNGER
    Joined: Nov 17, 2005
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    what do you mean, "even for Pa."- we are #1 state number of NRA members, there's a LOT of conservatives here into the car hobby, and we only have mandatory tail sniff emissions in 3 city areas Philly-Harrisburgh-Pittsburgh- the rest of the state is only a gas cap sniff test and visual- which all local garages BLOW OFF the visual test- I'm driving a 1982 F150 with NO CAT CONVERTER and getting away with it for the past 5 years- try that in California, the "hot rod state". 3 of my vehicles are also EXEMPT from what little emissions laws we have, because anything with less than 5000 miles logged each year is EXEMPT from emissions testing here, even new cars. Try THAT in California.

    yet we also are in top 5 for states with most vehicles on the road registered

    this is a BIG TIME hot rod/musclecar/racing/vintage car/antique car oriented state, no flea market swap meets are as large as Carlyle or Hershey- anywhere in the world

    my 1970 Pontiac has an antique plate with one time registration of only $71- no yearly inspection required- no yearly registration/tag required- and insurance is only $100 a year- no emissions testing required- try THAT in California

    if God made a better state than Pa. to hot rod in, he kept it for Himself

    the 5-time NHRA Top Fuel world champion Joe Amato is from Pa.- so is Grumpy Jenkins

    I sincerely DOUBT that law will pass- and most likely a classic or antique tag will be exempt from that "ban" even if it did pass

    so just change your tag
     
  2. scrounger i just hope none of our knucklehead legislators are reading your post.
     
  3. scr8p
    Joined: Dec 23, 2007
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    i heard about this a couple weeks back. the guy that puts on the show at the old vargo dragstrip gave my dad a call and asked if he'd take one of his cars down there.

    i'm pretty sure this isn't the first time there's been a gathering of old car enthusiasts at the state capitol, from what i can remember.
     
  4. AstroMonkey
    Joined: Jan 17, 2005
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    Basically my comment referred mostly to EVI. They make you jump through a lot of hoops to build and tag a hot rod. I also live close enough to Philly that all the emissions rules apply as well. Owning something after 72 can be a real bitch around here.

    It sounds like this article is pretty much all about EVI. It's nothing new and people have been bitching about it or getting around it for awhile now.
     
  5. Buddy Palumbo
    Joined: Mar 30, 2008
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    Yea , no kidding !

    It's all a money making machine . If they see they can get a few extra sheckles out of us , they'll do it . I like driving old cars , so unfortunately I'll have to pay if it comes down to it . If they have a fit about not driving an old car more than once a week , I guess I'll be paying fines too ;) .
     
  6. noboD
    Joined: Jan 29, 2004
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    This bill ran out of gas, the showcar license won't happen.
     
  7. chopper99
    Joined: Jan 27, 2006
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    Well that sucks!
     
  8. Truckedup
    Joined: Jul 25, 2006
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    TJM73,it pays to read the small print:)
     
  9. I travel pretty much all over the country. The best 'barn finds' are discovered driving the streets of small town America. There are existing laws on the books across the country that have not been enforced until relatively lately. Designed to deal with 'eyesores' and 'urban blight', these ordinances actually kill small town commerce and local economies. Short sighted local building authorities just do not realize how much money is added by small town cash sales of cars that may not be currently registered and licensed. In some towns, they actually come onto your property and tow away your vehicle to the scrap yard with no legal notice. :eek:
     
  10. noboD
    Joined: Jan 29, 2004
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    We beat the "enhanced inspection" issue in a few other threads months ago. The way it was explained to me, by someone pretty close to the system, was that a "new" title requires the enhanced program. This does not affect a car now in use. It does involve a car that is getting a new title, reconstructed, modified, flood, or antique, whatever. So if a car is to have it's title changed from standard to antique, reconstructed, or streetrod it will have to pass the enhanced program. Up until now ANY car over 25 could get a antique title and license with no one certifying it to be safe. I did not understand before today that the enhanced inspection program included antiques.
     

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