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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER, Jun 5, 2012.

  1. Sorry to hear about your misfortune. Prayers for a quick and complete recovery!
     
  2. loudbang
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  3. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    Thank you for the get well wishes everyone.
    I was feeling good enough to get back in the shop. I pieced together the collector with a piece of 2.5" OD tube. When I started welding I noticed a puddle of TIG coolant on the floor.
    Bummer.
    I'm not ready to get back down on my hands and knees to fix it so I put the collector on hold 'til the leak gets fixed.

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  4. enloe
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    I am down at the moment myself. We just have to do what we can do. Your problems were a lot worse than mine.
     
  5. Dave G in Gansevoort
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    Just remember what my good friend and driver told me when at 19 I started building the 1st modified. Do at least one thing every day and it'll get done. And even those little 5 minute jobs need to get done. I've been stringing together those kinds of things for the Whatever project, hence no new pictures or posts. They're just not interesting enough, but they are getting done.
     
  6. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    That is excellent advice and words to live by Dave. Thanks for the reminder.
     
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  7. 1934coupe
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    Get well soon Flyer.

    Pat
     
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  8. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    Thank you Pat - every day a little bit better. My welder is fixed. I completed the collector and since yesterday was Amazon Prime day I ordered a muffler for the car. It is a 2.5" in, 2.5" out, 4 " diameter round stainless steel muffler 18 inches long which is about as big as will tuck up under my frame. I want it to be pleasantly mellow and hopefully it will be adequate. If not I could add a resonator downstream.

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  9. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    Here is the new muffler placed in the frame, with the cardboard dual-in-dual-out facsimile under it to show the size difference.

    I have one question for the HAMB muffler experts. The muffler has dozens of tiny louvers in the center straight thru pipe. Should the openings of those louvers face upstream or downstream?
    I can reason that with the louver openings facing upstream it may be quieter, but with greater backpressure. With the louver openings facing downstream it may flow better but with less noise attenuation.
    What say you HAMBers? Which way do I connect it up? I'll probably be welding up all the joints solid.

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  10. Mike Lawless
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    Faced with the same dilemma when I built the exhaust for my Harley, I pointed the louvers back, for the assumption there would be less back pressure. As far as Harley's go, the tone is kinda mellow.
    Maybe clamp the muffler temporarily instead of welding it, so you can reverse it to see for yourself?
     
  11. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    Thanks Mike. I may try that. Another thing I'm considering is a header dump, for open exhaust trips down the drag strips.
     
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  12. jnaki
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    Hello,

    Those mini bumps are there for a purpose. If they are facing to the rear, then that is how it should be. Any restriction impedes flow in any design. No one would put louvers on the hood facing forward to catch air for the hood/motor compartment. The smooth flow of air goes over the smooth curve and possible some of it swirls into the rear openings.

    So, in essence, the smoother flow of the exhaust going back to the bumper is the way it is built and should be used. But, people do weird things in mods to their cars.
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    Jnaki


    It seems a moot question, since the photo shows it already welded in place. So, which way did you put the openings, facing the front for some restrictions or backwards like it should be for smooth flow of the exhaust gasses…? YRMV
     
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  13. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    Thanks jnaki, I agree.
    The muffler is not welded on yet - just slip fit on.
     
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    I'd like to see back to back dyno tests with decibel meter readings. I bet we'd be surprised at how little difference in H.P. would be, and amazed at how much the sound levels changed.
     
  15. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    I acquired these pipes at a flea market. I will use them to fab the exhaust from the muffler back. They are Flowmaster brand and from the looks of the parts sticker that is still glued to the pipes I would say they never were on a running car. All the bends are mandrel bends, not some cheap kinky or corrugated junk. Tail pipe hangers are next.
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  16. I have bypassed this thread at least 100x... I am now subscribed. I'm digging the big Ford 6-bangers. Where I raced, the venerable 223 Ford was the hot ticket in many a figure-8 car.
     
  17. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    Welcome to the "club" bobss396, thanks for subscribing. If you liked the 223 you'll love the 240/300. There are so many features to this engine that make it very advantageous to use in a period correct classic hot rod. If one can fit in a tiny Anglia it can be made to fit virtually anywhere.

    "Looking at cleavage is like the looking at the sun, you can only glance at it. But if you wear sunglasses, you can look a lot longer."
    LOL Funny you should mention that bobss396. When I ride my bike to the beach folks often ask what is that little rear view mirror on my goggles? I explain it is for seeing the gals in bikinis - both coming and going.
     
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  18. I had an old Fairlane (looked like a Joe Friday whip...) with the 250 6 in it. It had a fair oil appetite, put in a couple of anti-foulers and it ran like a scalded dog. Funny I rarely hear anything about them. They were used up into the Granada line.
     
  19. Dave G in Gansevoort
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    One of the best $100 cars I drove back in the modifieds days was a 70 4-door Falcon with a 250 six. Drove it for a year, engine didn't knock, clunk, burn oil, or any other bad thing. Only reason I got rid of it was it was a rust bucket. You could feel the body flex driving over uneven roads! Should have kept the engine, but a year without any cost beyond gasoline and insurance was all I was after...

    Those were the days
     
  20. This was a '69 I picked up as a junk car. The right side was caved in from the back door to the rear bumper. The RR tire was 100% exposed. I put front brakes and a windshield in it. The left side looked perfect, the car was recently painted. Zero rust on this baby.

    I drove it all over, got stopped by the cops a few times, they thought I was fleeing an accident scene. I sold it for $150 maybe 5 months later to a serial drunk driver, he showed up to look at it with a beer in his hand.
     
  21. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    I needed hanger brackets for the exhaust, and remembered when I built the Anglia trailer out of a derilect house trailer frame I clipped the outriggers off the frame to narrow it. It occurred to me that they would make good hanger brackets so I dredged them out of my scrap pile. I will shorten and de-rustify as many as needed, probably four, and weld them to the frame.

    I cut-and-welded a portion of the exhaust pipes from the muffler out the back over the rear end. Surprisingly little chopping was needed. But my plan for a one-piece system won't work because I'm going over the rear end and it will not be possible to remove in one piece. Work continues...

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  22. GearheadsQCE
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    It's not a 'Scrap Pile'.

    It's an 'Undesignated Metal Resource Storage Area':D
     
  23. Dave G in Gansevoort
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    Reduce, reuse, recycle! See hot rodders really are conservationists!
     
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  24. And... REPURPOSE...:D:D:D
     
  25. mrquickwhip
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    Long shot here, but in the UK we used to use the roof from an old mini to fill the panel in a ford pop/Anglia, the window mechanisms and heaters and wiper motor from the old mini were popular items to use too.
     
  26. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    Thanks mrquickwhip. Full disclosure, I made a roof panel from flat stock and rolled a crown in it with the English wheel. But I got carried away and put too much crown in it. That is why I have not posted pics of it. Now I have to decide if I want to try to shrink some of the crown out - or start over. Two steps forward, one step back...
     
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  27. Dave G in Gansevoort
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    Long shot? Look at the whatever project. You'll see I've used a Mini steering column and pedals! And there's plans to use some other leftovers from the 1st Mini as well.
     
  28. I saw a Taurus station wagon roof section on an old Ford sedan, it had the ribs in it, looked almost factory if it was dark out... :D
     
  29. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    On our '48, a Ford Granada was nearly perfect.
    I've seen Vega station wagons with a ribbed roof used successfully too.

    I think I'll work on my first attempt to get the crown right. I made a steel roof bow to help.

    Granada:
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  30. THE FRENCHTOWN FLYER
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    More fab work was done on the exhaust. If I installed as produced, the over/under design of the primary outlets interferes with the torque box of the frame. It has to move. So I cut the two tubes apart by removing the EGO sensor connection, which was a restriction anyway. Then I choped up the rear pipe so it would lay next to the front one. I made a couple of pipe spacer templates to align the primary pipes with the inlet into the muffler.

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