Featured Technical ***August 2025 Banger Meet Thread - Yes, Already***

I tested the prototypes of those too...

 

Bonneville 2025

The week started off with a single run to qualify and a backup run to set the record in V4F/GMR, simple, right?

Then we became greedy and reentered as a FMR fuel, you know nitro and all that stuff

Oh well, we will go looking for the lost #2 cylinder later this weekend.

 

congratulations!!!!....and for #2 son Rodney leaving the scene...you aren't so much a back of the envelope guy ...more of a push the envelope....

 

Found a 32' air "cleaner" I'm liking the looks of on my engine.

 

That air cleaner

 

That's awesome on the record, well done!

 

Congratulations!

 

x 2

 

Not sure if this is ok to add in here. I am trying to buy a Rocket 428 speed head for a banger build. The guy hasn't been making the heads but says if he gets 20 people he will take a $400 deposit to start a batch of heads. Would take about 4 months. $850 per head. Is anyone in here interested in one? I just got on the list as #12. I would say we need about 10-12 more people incase someone backs out. If you are interested, Please go to his website and email him to get on the list.

https://www.secretsofspeed.com/rocket-428-images
secretsofspeed.1@gmail.com

Jason

 

Charlie Yapp has been building those heads for a long time. We are running both a Lion head and a Rocket head here. Have you checked with Jim Brierley to see if he is casting or has any new heads?
Warren

 

Made a new hub nut for a Houk #4 wire wheel set last weekend. The original special hub nut is cast aluminum, and houses a hub mounted Veeder odometer unit, factory accessory for a Detroit Electric automobile. A little time on the lathe, and some twisting and turning in the new mill, just about DUN!

 

Beautiful work as always @Kevin Pharis

 

Charlie is gonna do another run of heads IF he gets enough interest. Have not asked Jim

 

Thanks! The next project will also be wheel related… but much bigger! We’ll see how it goes…

 

‘Been out of it for a while.
Looking to replace a leaky flexible fuel line to BNGR’s carb.
Tell me again what’s THE hard line to use please.
Thx
Art

 

Nice work John, congratulations.

 

Steel brake line works pretty well for hard fuel lines.

 

I use Nicop for fuel lines and cooler lines. It looks good and won't crack with vibration.
Warren

 

Thanks All
It has been an Honor to work with these folks
Creel, Nelson & Nelson and Kendall

John

 

Watch the races, bring your cushion. nfs

 

Gary,
they race small Badgers in Wisconsin ?

 

2 year olds....

 

So what do we have here ?

 

Looks like a bonafide hot rod to me! McDowell…?

 

Looks like Ford trans also, etc, but what's with that frame? Dropped axle yea, but a dropped frame??? Steering column laid back pretty far so...........

 

Need some help here.
Late in 2023, I acquired a Jim Brierly 7:1 head and a Yapp Equalizer dual intake. They were installed and ran well all through 2024 and into early 2025. A while back the car started to run poorly and idle at 2000. Earlier this summer in talking to Jim Brierly, he mentioned that I should be running the 18 degree FSI and not the 28 degree which was in engine. I installed an 18, but perhaps too late. This past weekend on a hot rod tour, the engine suddenly overheated and stopped. I could not restart it. Today I tore the engine down and this is what I found.


The BEST gasket was burnt out between 3&4 and starting to destruct between 1&2



Cylinder 3 was clean (left to right 4,3,2,1)


Combustion chamber 3 was clean (left to right 4,3,2,1)


The plugs looked a little carboned but the gap was correct. (left to right 1,2,3,4)



The engine was built by Bert’s some years ago, but only came to life in the past four years. It only has about 1200 miles on it. The new head was torque to 65lbs and the surfaces appear to be flat. I’m not really smart on engines and was wondering if anyone had insight.

Warren

 

Hate it when the fun comes to a sudden stop...
I can't tell for sure, but the mating/coverage of the fire ring on the gasket to the head looks suspect. Do you have a new head gasket to lay on the head to look at that way? Does Brierley say to use an A or a B head gasket with his head? If there is any fire ring not covered by the head, that is suspect in my mind.

65 ft lbs is more than I go, you don't want to draw the threads out of the block. I don't know what you have for head studs. Chrome/moly at a minimum
I always torque to 55 ft lbs and start the engine without any coolant in it and let it idle until the head gets too hot to touch.
Then I re-torque it hot to 55
let it cool and re-check it to 55
fill the cooling system with water, then drive it and drain and re-torque when it is cold
Fill it with coolant and worry about other stuff

 

That is a Best 573 gasket for a model B. The Best 509 is the 28-31 gasket but Snyder's say to use the 573 on Hi-Comp heads. I just ordered a new gasket set from Olson's and I don't know which copper head gasket it contains. It was Jim Brierly who advised me to go to 65lbs.
What is the difference between the A and the B gasket? Should I use the 509 A gasket if it comes?
I am using ARP studs, washers and nuts. I like your sequence and will use it when putting the head back on. I think with this sequence I will also only go to 55lbs. There will be updaates.
Thanks Larry
Warren

 

https://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/product.htm?pid=979902&cat=41689#:~:text=Part #-,B-6051-XO,-|
This is the gasket I have been using for the high compression head
I haven't had any luck with copper head gaskets sandwiched between an aluminum head and a cast iron block....
three different materials with different expansion rates is where my thoughts go....still, I have reservations about the fire ring exposed into the combustion chamber

 

I think Jim mentioned last Saturday he had 2 heads left and was going to possibly get more castings (which have jumped in price - again). Don't forget Jim's heads are a little taller for better cooling so you'll need to use different studs. Jim uses ARP and generally sells them with the head (if he has them).