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August 4 Banger Meeting!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by CoalTownKid, Aug 2, 2007.

  1. I'm liking it!

    Those ****ers go together pretty quick, eh?

    Sam.


     
  2. as a propietor of both a model T and an TD I dont know of i should be offended or rather curious....

    i hope the ****** thing gets running soon. both of 'em.
     
  3. Lil' Lance
    Joined: Nov 3, 2006
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    kick ***! everything!!!
     
  4. Norris McCarty
    Joined: Apr 19, 2007
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    So ya think I should start with the gearing instead of the power end of it? I guess with the 16s I'm already geared a bit lower than the std. 3.78. Maybe I should go 3.27? I don't have any experience with these bangers and don't have a lot of funds either to make mistakes with.
    Thanks,
    n
     
  5. Artiki
    Joined: Feb 17, 2004
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    from Brum...

    I'd probably want to give it a bit more torque before fitting 3.27's. A higher comp. head, decent carb, ignition and exhaust will do it. A cam will really make it come alive. 3.27's are really tall for a stock banger, so I'd do those engine mods first and enjoy them, then move on from there.
    Get to know your car first. This is all just my opinion, by the way.
    There are another couple of websites where you'll get decent advice on bangers.....
    www.ahooga.com
    www.fordbarn.com
    Both are well worth a look.
     
  6. Sawracer
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    Here's my latest. Time is really the issue at this point. Twin winfield's will compliment the homebuilt intake.
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
     
  7. Sawracer
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    These threads are my favorite! Thanks all. I will be posting a play by play when this ****er runs.
     
  8. Enbloc
    Joined: Sep 27, 2004
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    Sawracer,

    Your homemade intake reminds me of my own homemade intake except turned upside down!?!

    I did a tech piece on making mine in one of the early banger meets.

    [​IMG]
     
  9. Norris McCarty
    Joined: Apr 19, 2007
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    Artiki, Is a Weber and header a good place to start? What kinda cam and grind would you suggest? What head and compression would you start with?
    Thanks,
    n
     

  10. Cool, some one is finally building a Jern Thunderbolt. Looking forward to hearing how it goes.
     
  11. RichFox
    Joined: Dec 3, 2006
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    Loading the banger to deliver it to Speedway at Speedweek. Had to take time off to take cat to vet. He has a bad Fur Ball. Cost me plenty to get that fixed. Damn Fur Balls.
     
  12. 36Brua
    Joined: Jul 31, 2007
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    Hi Artiki, off subject solightly but... what dfid you use for your headlight bar thanx. Bruce A
     
  13. Artiki
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    Sam...yep, flying together. Got the firewall in Saturday, and most of the tail section done yesterday. Hoping to have all the fab'ing done by this week. Looking forward to driving it as our weather has taken a turn for the better!

    Norris...not a fan of the Weber conversion myself, but that is more to do with how it looks than performance. I've read that they work quite well, but it just looks odd imho. As for the head, I'm a fan of the Winfield heads. Maybe keep the compression around 6-1 for a mild tune. A good street cam is the Winfield SU1R...loads of bangers run them. Most of the Model A tune shops stock them, but I got mine from Jim Brierley who can be found on Ahooga.com

    36Brua...it's a stock '30-'31 bar with the ends cut off next to the lamp sockets and welded underneath.
     
  14. Enbloc
    Joined: Sep 27, 2004
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    I hate the Weber conversions!

    The carb itself is a direct replacement Weber for a Pinto so is under sized and under jetted for an 'A/B' engine, they are very expensive and just look plain horrible on a Banger.
     
  15. davesville
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    so what would you suggest as a cheap alternative
     
  16. Artiki
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    A cheap alternative would be a single 94 on a downdraught manifold. The manifold would be the expensive bit, 94's don't go for a lot of money. I ran one for a couple of years and it was pretty good.

    I don't share the 'hate' that 4ever4 has for the Webers, I've never run one so don't really feel qualified to slag them off, but they certainly don't look right. Ugly, in fact.
     
  17. SawRacer - your Jern Thunderbolt looks fantastic!

    Progress on my pick up has been steady. Below is a pic of the torsion bar suspension I fitted on the rear end to go with the torsion bar suspension I had fitted earlier.
    It mounts to the shock mounts on my wishbones.
    I have made up a steering box mount, fitted the front shocks, making a steering column and almost sorted the handbrake. Its getting there and summer is just around the corner.
     

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  18. Simon
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    Anyone going to the Hayride - say hello - I will be in the truck and I will buy you a beer.
     
  19. Flat Ernie
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    Wish I could be at the hayride...sadly, I'm about 5000 miles away...
     
  20. Artiki
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    Aw...DAMMIT :mad:
     
  21. hotrodA
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    Started another thread about this, but it's buried.

    Anybody got any history on Weiand finned aluminum head?
    Performance reports? Just another pretty face?

    I've found a seized A with one (albeit with two small cracks on the top of the water jacket), a Burns 2 jug intake, and a Mallory.
     
  22. Jonny69
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  23. Enbloc
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    Hey Flat Ernie,

    Any chance you could stick Jonny69's thread ^above^ in the Banger Tech Archives?

    Deserves to be there.
     
  24. continentaljohn
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    I'm guess I'll pipe up for the Bangers:D who have the Weber carb set-up.
    My 1930 sedan has a A motor that has been warmed up a bit:D and runs the weber set-up. My motor has:
    Cam,high compression head 6.5, 1.94 valves with hard seats, header and SS exaust, elec dizzy, full pressure oil and filter system, T-5 trans etc. I find that the carb is a pain to adjust and has been running Fat(rich) the whole time. So I'm on the other end and not running lean?? My buddy has this set up on a B motor and has the same problem as I , running rich not lean.. I just picked up another carb to see what gives and have one to play with. Other then the look of modern goodies it's ok.. I too would rather have a duel set-up with 81's or a single 48.
    So rich ??lean?? what gives with the carb??
     

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  25. Jonny69
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    What Weber carb is it? Over here there were loads of them on Pintos and crossflows depending on the capacity and all jetted up differently but all fit the same hole.

    Aw gee :eek:
     
  26. Equipped28
    Joined: Mar 30, 2007
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    not modern but a 4 banger my dads one built in 1992 [​IMG] and heres a pic to show rods are used in all weathers [​IMG]
     
  27. Bruce Lancaster
    Joined: Oct 9, 2001
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    Weber setup...are you running that flat rectangular sardine-can looking filter commonly sold with those?? I have never had one, but hear that that aircleaner is pretty much a choke...apparently an actual sardine can flows better. Don't know if issue is actually flow or if filter is too flat and close to vents and inlet. Give car a short run with no aircleaner and see if mix improves.
     
  28. continentaljohn
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    Bruce, I am using the sardine can:eek: and haven't got a chance to make a Billet one yet:D . I'll take her off at lunch time and buzz around and see what happens.. I think with a papper element it might be better then the Mesh/oil K&M..
    Jonny, I didn't know they made diffrent jets for it and sold that way. I just ordered it and they gave me no options??? I would thinkit would be for a stock replacement? Cool I'll check it out...
     
  29. Bruce Lancaster
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    Rule of thumb: All hotrod or high performance aircleaners are **** until PROVEN otherwise.
     
  30. Crestliner
    Joined: Dec 31, 2002
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    I have a friend running one on his 30 sedan. Drives it thousands miles every year.
    I was going to hot rod my 30 roadster a little, but since this other 30 roadster with the 60 came along, other is going to leave.
     

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