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  1. MrFire
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    Still at Lobethal - This is Ohlmayer in MG #39:

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    Ron Uffindel in Austin 7 #42:

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    Kleinig in his Hudson. Notice the road registration plate has gone missing in the second photo:

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    A Lea Wright:

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    photo of the interior:

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    Joshua in a Fraser Nash:

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    Broughton driving a Morgan:

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    John Snow driving a Delahaye 3.5

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    Howard,

    The earliest recorded use of "Pits" in European racing was at the 1908 Targa Florio-18 May at the Circuito Grande Madonie. These are described as shallow emplacements dug into the ground so the mechanics could work on the detatchable rims. Unfortunately i don't have any photos but i've always been curious as to the deepness of the area. However, photos do exist of the pits at the 1908 GP de l'ACF at Dieppe run on the 7th of July. The rules stipulated that only the driver and mechanic could work on the car during the stop.

    I can't answer your question in regards to the first use of pits in American autoracing but i always assumed it was at the 1908 Vanderbilt Cup although the little bird on my shoulder is telling me it could've been earlier. Maybe the American's invented the idea first?

    Ivan.

    photos below - 1908 GP de l'ACF @ Dieppe.
    1st- MORS - Camille Jenatzy and mechanic Dayssiolles.
    2nd- MERCEDES - Christian Lautenschlager and Mackle.
    3rd- MOTOBLOC - Fritz von Opel and Weyl.
     

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    Who can enlighten us on this Benz with Ned Bishop behind the wheel?? This looks to me to be an earlier car with a new cowl?? Was he a copy cat or for real??

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  15. The great Tazio Nuvolari with monza Chiribiri! What a name for a car!

    The company "Torinese Velivoli Chiribiri & C was founded in 1910 by the Venetian businessman Antonio" Papa "Chiribiri, with Ramassotto and engineer Maurizio Verga Gaudenzio to initially produce spare parts for the aviation industry. This activity was carried out for some time, and even attempted to build at least an entire aircraft and later turned to building aircraft engines under license.
    In 1914, Count Brunetta d'Usseaux Gustavo Chiribiri manufacturing commissioned a hundred cars he wished to sell them to enter industrial activity, however the principal economic difficulties prevent the car go beyond the prototype. The first Chiribiri car project was called "Siva" and was a "voiturette" 4-cylinder, 980 cc and two seats. To reduce losses, Chiribiri decides to continue the adventure alone but increasing displacement to 1,300 cc (12 hp model). Production continued at reduced rate and after the war Chiribiri decides to devote all the activity of the company to manufacture automobiles. In 1919 began marketing the 12 hp of 1593cc with an output of 19 hp.

    After several modifications, including the engine, the car Chiribiri called "Milano" went into production in 1921, and production continued until 1928.

    One strand of the "Milano" was the "Monza", was a passenger car seats and four torpedo-like body. Chiribiri's children, Ada and Amadeo "Deo" amateur drivers driving his father to the manufacture of a race model, 12 hp Monza. In 1922 "Deo" and the English Jack Scales disputed several races demonstrating the competitiveness of small Chiribiri. Chiribiri In 1923 the team joined the new team riders but bright Ansaldo, Tazio Nuvolari, Aleta Marconcini, and Luigi Plata, arriving with them getting the best results from the mark.

    The engine of the "Monza Corsa" a displacement of 1486cc and her head camshafts. The latest version of this car in 1925, included a supercharged variant more than 90hp through which the car exceeded 200 km / h.

    Rome Model 5000 also a 4-cylinder 1,500 cc appeared in 1922, and Chiribiri most famous: the "vetturetta bialbero" road, sport and supercharged 93 CV 1925 and reaching 180 km / h because its very light weight.

    Despite some successes, sales of "Costruzioni Meccaniche Chiribiri l'Auto" (the name adopted in 1925) were never very high and the economic crisis of the late 20s led to the closure of the factory in September 1929, selling Lancia industrial land.

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    Great pics as ever MrFire. This is P3 #5002 rather than a Monza, I think the other 8Cs all had the exhaust on the other side. The car was imported from europe in 1938 and the engine was lost when the ship carrying it to Italy in 1939 was torpedoed.
    #50002 was owned by Frank Griswold who ran it at indy 1939 and 40 and sold it to Tommy Lee who ran it again at indy 1946 -47 and DNQ 48. It was imported to oz in the 50s by Bill Murray looking very different...
     

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    Like the 'wire cutter' on this.........


    great pictures ratamahata



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    58hp Daimler we saw a few weeks back 'shedding' it's chains at Shelsley's bottom S.......



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    Oh how I'd like to come to the UK with the Miller and do some 'Bug Stomping' :D
     
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