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History Auto racing 1894-1942

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by kurtis, Jul 18, 2009.

  1. The37Kid
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    Zig Zag Z Welcome to the HAMB! That is a GREAT PHOTO! Just last year Harms Way here on the HAMB sold the radiator out of the sister car to the one in your photo. Looking forward to more photo posts. Bob
     
  2. ZigZagZ
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    Here's a couple more pix of Gaston:

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    Victory Lane 1920 Indy 500 (silent movie frame)

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    Elgin Illinois - a month or so after Indy. John Breshnahan mechanician (Library of Congress)
     
  3. Manel
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    [QUOTEHere's the Bourcier/Vasena car:

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mso-para-margin-bottom:10.0pt; mso-para-margin-left:0cm; line-height:115%; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-font-family:Calibri; mso-ascii-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-hansi-font-family:Calibri; mso-hansi-theme-font:minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-theme-font:minor-bidi; mso-fareast-language:EN-US;} </style> <![endif]--> Perhaps could recall now the anecdote relative to the at 1928Le Mans endurance race I read somewhere.
    Apparently, Hector Krieger Vasena, the fast Argentinian co-driver of Tracta nº 31, used to halt at Arnage, to play tangos and share a glass of wine with the roadside campers, to spend some time and match the strict average of 80 Km/h , established by the team, aimed to spare the engine and secure their final classification. Engineer A.Gregoire, the Tracta designer and driver, was very happy with Hector’s regular pace until the morning after the race, learned the singular way his extrovert mate had to be “on time” every lap !.
    That conservative pace relegated the trio of splendid “Gephi” Tractas behind the class winner Salsom, in spite of being clearly faster.

    The 1929 edition was more rewarding for those smart front drive French pioneers.
     
  4. Manel
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    Brave Eugenio Siena met his fate when lost the control of his works Alfa-Romeo 312 V12 trying to avoid the Cortese Maserati 6CM 1.5 "Voiturette", at the 1938 Trirpoli G.P.
     
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  8. Bob, you know that that's how we used to salute the flag... until that whole deal with Adolf and his buddies got ugly.
     
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    Yes Manel, you have the correct story and I belive this info comes from the book I got to see some years back written by Gregoire himself. Do you know of any other source of Tracta 1928 information? This would help me a lot. Regards
     
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    Not know a comprehensive one. Sorry.
    Perhaps can look at French "Forum-Auto" or "AUTODIVA" forums.
    Diverse sites devoted to the model cars have also short features of Tracta.
    The Volum 43, Issue 3, of "Automobile Quarterly" contains a Tracta feature.
    The Tampa Bay Museum in Pinellas Park, FL, has one of the 1929 Le Mans cars.
    Best.
     
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    Very evocative and descriptive view of the M-B paddock at the 1938 Italian G.P. in a down day for the Neubauer boys.
    nº 12: R. Caracciola, nº 4: M .v. Brauchitsch, nº 26: H. Lang, nº 15: R. Seaman.
    Anyway:The happiness of the team was recovered soon later on with the engagement of the Erica Popp with R. Seaman.
    Look the huge drum brakes and stylish car lever.
     
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    Thank you Manel, will look for that Automobile Quarterly.
     
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    Genuine Briton Genius!
     
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    Manel,
    Sitges, Spain,1923, inauguraton. Alfonso XIII and Jose Ricart (father of Wilfredo) in the close up picture.
     
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    love this guys expression:

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