History Auto racing 1894-1942

THANK YOU! That is a collection I never knew about until a month ago. Looks like the go to place if you love MILLER race cars. Bob

 

I visited there a couple of years ago, a day before the Amelia Island Concours, and during what was their first public opening. Not knowing anything about the collection or its owner, I mostly expected Porsches and everything Gregg and Haywood. That alone was worth the visit. But I was astounded by the oval track stuff there. PS there are more videos out there on their collection.

 

Hudson

 

1924/10/02 to 12, XIXe Salon de l'Automobile, Grand Palais, Paris. At the Alfa Romeo Stand #86, was shown from October 7, the 8C P2 #10 of Giuseppe Campari

 

WOW!!!!!!!!!!

 

Anyone know what that thing is next to the driveshaft?

 

Its a Bragg Kliesrath brake booster an early version of a brake booster found on high end cars at the time.

 

Also intriguing is the four shock absorbers, two friction and two rotary hydraulic to go along with the four quarter-elliptics.

 

Interesting early independant rear end, unless the crossmember that the driveshaft/rear end is bolted to is a "floater?" LOL!

 

There is a De Dion tube back there somewhere, something like the one on the FWD Millers. Bob

 

You can actually spot the DD tube right behind the nearside brake drum. And it looks like a Miller FD arrangement because it actually is one - this is the 1931 Miller "Big Eight", which basically used the front axle of the front-drives as its rear axle!

 

I had posted 2 of these images of the SCHOOF SPECIAL earlier in post #11609. The engine image showed up this morning.

 

^^^ Looks like a RAJO overhead, and maybe an early BUICK steering box.

Bob

 

That looks like a well engineered car. Except I would have put the friction shocks more outboard of center.
I like the old farm machinery in photo #2.

 

Hello,
Nice photos of a very interesting and clear design!
Only, my dilemma is what is a type and where is the front spring(s)?
Cio, Zoran

 

Judging by the bolt through the back of the radius rods I'd say it was un-suspended, semi rigid, designed to twist only.

 

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Hello everyone, haven't been here in a long time. I have this vintage alloy circle track racing box that came with an original unrestored Model T racing car based on T parts with two T engines. I bought it about five years ago and just getting some time to look for things that it needs. It's an early car and I have the ad a garage in Brookline, MA placed in the Boston Globe when they sold in 1921. It was built on a 1913 chassis with a '13 engine with a Roof 16-valve head and later rebuilt in the '20s with a SR Fronty T engine with a DOHC crank; it was raced until the early '30s. This steering box came with it I'm wondering if someone can ID the manufacturer of the box, the model and during which years was it was available on the market. The alloy casting is 18" long and the 6" long center to center pitman arm is attached with a taper and a key. Thanks for any help.

 

Franklin?

 

Franklin based was my first thought too, with custom, aluminum castings.

 

^^^^^Today I can afford these prices^^^

 

How would you like to drive that? I want some of those goggles!

 

Does anyone have some B&W photos of a Blitzen-Benz racing. Thanks

 

The radiator from the Blitzen Benz was on this race car June 7, 1924 in Pottsville, Pa.

Bob

 

Those goggles looks good!

 

Interesting. I wonder if this is the Wills Special, driven by Tommy Dawson as a #6 in the area in 1924. I know nothing else about it, what with the engine or other constituents to the car. The top of the radiator looks very much like the water reservoir on the Blitzen, although the radiator is not as tall - maybe it was cut down. Also possible that it was merely styled after the Blitzen.

As for the Blitzen (there were actually two in America), one was last seen in Wisconsin in the fall of 1921, and is likely the car that appeared at Brooklands/England the following spring. I don't recall offhand if it still had its original radiator. The other was touring with Ralph Hankinson on the IMCA circuit, and was crashed hard by Larry Stone on April 30 in 1921 at Atlanta/GA. It was off the tracks for a while, but eventually resurfaced, still touring with Hankinson - last appearance I have in my records is late summer of 1922 in the Dakotas.

 

Michael, That is a section of a wide photo of the cars in Pottsville, Pa 1924. I sold the original years ago but have a so so Xerox copy I'll post later. It came from Race Car driver Larry Beals and he listed all the cars on the back.