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Autocross Hot Rod Picture Thread

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by mason71, Sep 5, 2009.

  1. mason71
    Joined: Aug 27, 2009
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    Show us some pictures of some rods built for autocross!
     
  2. Well i didn't set out to build an autocross car. But... What the hell
     

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  3. Hackerbilt
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    Show US a filled out profile and an introduction!
    Your a total stranger to us right now...but thats easy to fix! :D

    Hope this thread takes off for ya though...;)
     
  4. mason71
    Joined: Aug 27, 2009
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    I just graduated college, love working on cars, i want to build a rod... built to go fast and look fast while doing it all the while not necessarily in a straight line. No billet, or gloss paint, very little chrome... just fast and bad***. I like the idea of a 1930 model A chopped and channeled low... real low... flat black paint.... race seats, four point harness, roll bar. Something that can go back and forth from the autocross course to the drag strip and do well.

    First need a job : ) I just thought it would be fun to dream, and figure out where to start.

    I am reading up on ch***is design. Any suggestions?

    Take off the glitter and fat walletness of this car, and you sorta have what im thinking.
     

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  5. Busted Knuckles
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    Now go and read the rules before posting another thing, trust me it will help your stay around here a lot!
     
  6. zman
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    That car looks like a polished turd. IFS out hanging in the open ugly wheels and tires. Ugh...
     
  7. CoolHand
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    You'll learn fast, that if you want to build a car that corners like it means it, you gotta kinda be covert about it, or people flip out.

    I would consider adding original contour fenders to your master plan to hide the IFS that you will need to make your car perform to your liking.

    A fast car that will corner, don't have to be ugly.
     
  8. LSGUN
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    It's one of those fibergl*** "kits". :rolleyes:
     
  9. renrob5000
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    Research Duffy Livingston's Eliminator...more traditional setup that handled like a slot car. Lot's of info on the net and books/magazines.
     
  10. Truckedup
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    A traditional straight axle set up can be made to handle well with some careful thinking suspension geometry, spings rates and so on.
     
  11. Ned Ludd
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    What Truckedup said. But you can get some seriously non-traditional results by being clever with a traditional technological palette.

    I'm looking at that sort of thing, mostly theoretical for the time being: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=374184 But I've got an actual part now!
     
  12. CoolHand
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    For all the complexity and linkages on your ride Ned (which is quite impressive), you still aren't going to get the performance out of a beam axle that you will out of an unequal length double A-Frame IFS.

    There is a reason that beam axle development stopped altogether in the mid-60's.

    I can appreciate that folks here don't like the way an IFS looks on a fenderless car. That's fine, I can live with an aesthetic choice over riding a functional one, so long as you're honest about it (meaning you admit that you're more worried about looks than how well the car handles). Just don't try to tell me that the beam axle is superior in any way but looks.

    IMO, if you run fenders, there's no reason not to put a well designed IFS on it (and by well designed, I mean NOT a Mustang II ;) ).

    Do a double wishbone IFS in front, and a three link with a low mounted panhard bar in the rear, and provided that you have adequate rubber on it, you should be quite happy with how it handles when you're done.
     
  13. zman
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    Why not just buy a modern sports car if you're that worried about it? Modern sticky tires look like *** on an old ride. You can make an older car handle pretty damn good. Good to the point that you will overpower the tires pretty easy. But once you go the modern suspension and tires you go down a path that makes it less an old car.
     
  14. mason71
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    Gosh I didn't realize the touchiness of the subject....

    i guess i'm in the wrong forum
     
  15. CoolHand
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    BAH!

    Blackwalls are blackwalls, whether they'll stick or not.

    You're not gonna do it with bias ply WWW's.

    We're just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one.

    To the OP - Don't run off just yet. These guys ***** and belly ache, but for the most part, they appreciate a well done build, even if it's wearing radial tires.

    Some will piss and moan to no end, but they'll be the minority (vocal though they will be).
     
  16. zman
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    well it is about "Traditional Hot Rods and Customs"

    besides the fact that you didn't do an intro or fill out your profile. Try and
    Read This First!

    Blackwalls are blackwalls. Not even close. Low profile modern tires look like *** on an old car, period. And I really doubt I'm in the minority here on that one. Yes people appreciate good workmanship, but if you bring your Street Rod in here you will get **** for it, and that is exactly where this is headed. You'll definitely need billet wheels for your low profile tires. :p
     
  17. zman
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    think

    [​IMG]

    not this
    [​IMG]
     
  18. Rootie Kazoootie
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    Ain't nothing saying you can't screw on whatever wheels/tires you want for the autocross regardless of what suspension you run. The serious autocrossers usually have dedicated ($$$) tires for the events.
     
  19. mason71
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    wow, yeah wrong forum

    later on
     
  20. zman
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    no need to leave, just understand where you are. there are some pretty cool rides on here that handle pretty good, and get driven hard.
     
  21. zman
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    Yep, and this one handles pretty decent if I do say so myself...

    [​IMG]

    Jaguar suspension front and rear with 4 wheel discs... the limiting factor is the tires for sure. But they look right on the car, especially for the early 60's look I was going for.
     
  22. There is also video on the board of someone autocrossing his hotrod this summer. Do a quick search.
     
  23. The Law
    Joined: Sep 26, 2007
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    The Law
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    hot rods dont handle...

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  24. zman
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    zman
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  25. zman
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    zman
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  26. zman
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    zman
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  27. Yeah but is fun to watch!:D

    Never had sub***les before
     

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