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Hot Rods Automotive Clear over Tremclad/Rustoleum?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Fortunateson, Sep 24, 2024.

  1. Fortunateson
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    I’ve already asked Anthony about this and now I’m asking all of you...

    Being laid up recuperating from two small strokes (very boring!) I’ve been YouTubing. Looking at various vids concerning using the Tremclad/Rustoleum products with a hardener and a couple of coats of automotive grade clear over top.

    Has anyone any experience with this method? Pros/cons? Real life experiences...
     
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  2. RodStRace
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    rustoleum is one kind of paint. Auto clear is another.
    Use auto paint under or Rustoleum clear over.
     
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  3. 1952henry
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    Curious what Anthony said, cuz I think you could take that to the bank.
     
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  4. vtx1800
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    For what it is worth, a few years ago my wife make this hand rail so her aging husband would be less likely to fall in the winter. We'd painted the hand rail portion with Rustole um, but one day I was doing clear on a metal horse she had made, I brushed some of the clear on the hand rail. Look closely and you will see a chip but it's been at least a year and seems to be standing up fine. It was just an experiment to see if it would work. The horse was bare metal in places and patina'd in some places to look like copper. That has held up fairly well too. I doubt PPG would warranty any of this use of their product, but we knew that the spray can clear didn't stand up well in the weather.
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  5. 1952henry
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    That is some talent, there^^^^
     
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  6. flynbrian48
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    Reducer for urethane, even acrylic enamel, is "hot" enough it'll lift and wrinkle Rust-O-Leum. That stuff dries from the outside in, new solvent on top will cause the semi-cured martial underneath to swell, lift of whatever it's on, and wrinkle up. Stick with one type product, don't mix 'em up.
     
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  7. 2K clear is supposed to work over Rustoleum, I see it recommended a lot.
     
  8. I haven’t used automotive clear over oil based …… yet. Sounds like a new class experiment

    we did shoot some test panels with oil based equipment paint with the hardener.
    After a a couple weeks, we cut and buffed it. Looked very good.
    We then scratched it to test how it feathered. Sanded great.
    Usually that is a good sign it can be topcoated easily. The only question would be if any chemicals didn’t like each other.
     
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  9. KenC
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    It can be made to work, but 'normal' drying time for the base isn't long enough. It has to be fully cured, I've done it on some small stuff just to try it. A couple of weeks in hot weather and really light coats of clear with plenty of time between coats and it didn't lift or wrinkle. YMMV
     
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  10. I wish I would have sold this post a few weeks ago but I guess my answer is a better late than never type of thing.
    Unfortunately I live in California so I cannot buy this clear anymore but this is the ticket when using a basic enamel paint. There are different brands of clear coat but this is the one I tend to remember because up until a few years ago this was available just around the corner from me.
    It has been a little while since I read up on it so please do your own research but you need to make sure that the enamel paint AKA rustoleum is fully cured, meaning no off gassing if you stick your nose right up on the paint and the paint should feel hard to the touch then you should be able to spray this right over the top, if I remember correctly it's actually not lacquer (even though the front of the can says lacquer clear), I believe it's actually an alkaloid enamel but again don't quote me on this it's been probably 4 years since I've read up on it.
    I still plan on driving to Las Vegas or maybe Arizona and I was going to buy a few gallons of it to store away because I do a lot of paint jobs using rustoleum type "tractor" paint because it is cheap and more importantly it is easily to repair if you get any damage on a daily driver. I have painted tons of vintage travel trailers and a few cars using rustoleum paint or this tractor supply "Majic" brand with excellent results the only problem is with the enamel paint is you have to keep wax on it once it is fully cured if not the paint will become chalky and very faded looking. Supposably this clear that is in the link should fix that and it claims to not yellow also but again I have no actual experience using the clear...
    I will probably forget about this post in a few days but if by some odd chance I remember it when I finally use the clear coat I will let you know what my results were...
    I was thinking about actually trying to do a lace roof on one of those Kaisers that you see me posting about in other areas on this site... I figure it's a cheap car you don't want to spend a ton of money on it and they restore your paint job would be fun and budget friendly.
    Anyways here is the link

    https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/p...WKnEUnAcHjyBFqOWwcfk_tkfxatkvP1YaAidjEALw_wcB
     
    Last edited: Oct 14, 2024

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