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Baffled by metallurgy... again!

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by pitman, Jan 24, 2009.

  1. pitman
    Joined: May 14, 2006
    Posts: 5,148

    pitman

    Guys, I am attempting to "join" a plate steel pipe bung, to the top hat of a late ford ('05 Focus) FI fuel pump that delivers to the A rod's engine. The pump "hat" appears to be soft formable steel. Except that I've not been able to: silver solder, braze, OR oxy/acet weld the joint. Any wizards know what Ford uses in their late model steels? Or how to weld/join? The weld has no strength, and just cracked...:(
    {Turns out that the plate was stainless!}
     
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2009
  2. Shifty Shifterton
    Joined: Oct 1, 2006
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    Sure you're not working against something that started as metallic powder before sintering? More and more of it around every day.
     
  3. Artwelder
    Joined: Jan 6, 2009
    Posts: 54

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    from OH

    Did it pass the magnet test? It might be aluminum for weight purposes.
     
  4. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
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    Unkl Ian

  5. F&J
    Joined: Apr 5, 2007
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    Sounds like the metal used on some exhaust pipes. I have no clue what it is, but when you cut with a torch, it blows away in chunks. I just assumed it was some sort of low grade stainless that maybe was used for the higher temps of a catalytic converter??
     
  6. TP
    Joined: Dec 13, 2001
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    from conroe tx

    Even if it is a low grade of stainless you should be able to weld it with a 7018 low hydrogen rod I think. I have ran across the exhaust like that before and thats what I did. I'd use a 3/32 rod and try it.
     
  7. pitman
    Joined: May 14, 2006
    Posts: 5,148

    pitman

    Ian, the weld appears to have some alloying element, that causes the weld puddle to display small yellow-heat flecks, which act like high heat impurities. Later the weld will crack, simply as it cools, or if stressed at all. She's stainless, and does grind/file/prep exactly like CRS.
     
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2009
  8. brewsir
    Joined: Mar 4, 2001
    Posts: 3,278

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    Sounds like a job for JB Weld.
     
  9. 63chevyll
    Joined: Jan 4, 2009
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    63chevyll
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    prolly has stainless in it
     

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