i'm glad you mentioned that. most people would'nt think of it unless they work with these things often. i've installed quite a few York Compressors on different vehicles for customers. i have a couple in teh cabinet in the garage right now. one is goin gon my 83 Chevy daily driver. it'll be bagged and set up to run air tools for those junk yard excursions. i'll prolly run a pair of 5 gallon tanks since i have several laying around and i can easily mount them under the bed and out of sight. Airlift sells new York compressors (thats where all the ones i've installed came from) with brackets specific to some popular vehicles as well as DIY kits that you have to fab your own brackets for. i've installed a few in S-10s, (tight fit on a V6) and i fabbed brackets for a 1 ton Dodge truck i layed on the ground. belt alignment is critical. also there are v-belt pulleys and serpentine pulleys available. BTW. a NEW York runs in the 7-8 hundred dollar range! ... i saw several in the bone yard last weekend on quite a few different vehicles. most from the 70s and 80s. if i had to actually pay for one for my own vehicle i'd get one from the bone yard, cause i'm a poor SOB.
As stated, the York is self-oiling on the bottom end because the sump is separate from the rest of the compressor system. Most A/C compressors the crankshaft drive and internal sump is not separate from the system, and rely on the oil mixed with the refrigerant. They will not last long if you do not have an oiler in the intake, then you have to deal with an oil separator. Just use the York if you want an engine driven compressor. Like many have said, they are common junkyard find in Fords, check also in Chryslers and AMC/Jeeps.
I have a york on my daily thanks to kustombuilder. I always had difficulty checking the oil in mine resulting in catstrophic failure. I fixed that by making an actual dip stick for it. I will take some pics when I am in the shop later today and post a tech on it.
Just FWIW, the AIM stuff tends to make some "pretty 'spensive'" junk. If you want the bag-over-strut stuff, go with the Air Ride Tech parts instead of the AIM knock-offs.
Ya, stay away from shAIM. www.innovativeairsuspension.com is a good site to get air ride components, they have air struts there. Another good site to get air bag components from is www.suicidedoors.com. I have dealt with both personally and talked to both of the owners of each shop before, how many companies can you say that about these days.
this is really cool. makes me rethink a lot about my car before i start buying bag parts. was thinking of pulling out my a/c compressor knowing i'll never fix it and would clean up the engine bay. this idea looks pretty factory and won't have to worry about drain from an electric compressor or refilling nitrogen tanks. i don't know crap about comp. brands or really even how they work but does anybody know about what kind would be a dealer-installed system in a 61 buick? it seems to be more of a horizontal orientation, to where i'm guessing it has oil all through it, not just in a sump. it'd be cool if it works 'cause it's already in the car, no bracket fabbin'! thanks!
Ass, gas or grass...no body rides for free. The compressor will be robbing HP and adding weight. I think I will stick with a 12v compressor. It will fill up my air tank as fast as I need anyway. To all; a reminder....make sure a safety valve is installed on the tank. If the pressure switch fails on the compressor, one of several things is going to happen if there is not a safety valve. An air line is going to rupture, an air bag is going to split, the tank is going to rupture or the air compressor will lock up, or stall, causing the belt to break or start smoking like a by god.
Ah, errrr; just a side note here for Comet.... A comet does not have fire trailing as in your avatar. It's made mostly of ice, which trails not behind it but is blown out away from the sun by the solar wind as it orbits. Just thought you'd like to know. ~ Paul aka "Tha Driver" Easy on the Giggle Cream!
them are spensive indeed you could use air cylinders they are ram operated, like juice and will fit in strut towers. With slider valves you indy rear guys can do a rear 3-wheel by sucking up the tire while locked up and dropping the opposite front. never seen done on a rod but could be funny well I think it would be damn funny
Weight, its not heavy enough for it even to be a issue. Unless your a top fuel dragster, the weight is nothing. Even if you are that serious about racing, you wouldnt be running air bags. Drag, electric compressors will cause drag too, coming from the alternator. The more juice your system is using, the more drag it puts on the engine. I was playing around with my york yesterday, it doesnt even cause enough drag on my 350 to bog down at all when the clutch is engaged at idle. Also it is not like the compressor is running all the time, so when you are racing, it shouldnt be on.
Is there a way to tell the York unit by looking at it or does one simple reply on the make of the car to find one? r
Ford, AMC/Jeep/Eagle, volvo, and lots of dealer/aftermarket air on older vehicles used the york. I have used both yorks, and sanden compressors for OBA(on board air). The Sanden 505 is a lot smaller, but not as stout as the york. Alangroove makes nice brackets for the sanden. There are 3 different output volumes on the yorks, 6,9,10cid. On the id tag on the compressor it will have one of these three numbers. There is also a way to tell by looking at the face of the crankshaft, but it is easier to look at the tag.
IIRC, the "210" in the York compressor designation means 2 cylinders, 10 cubic inch displacement. I've considered using a York compressor to replace the compressor on an old air compressor setup I have, replacement compressor and/or parts is expensive! I'm sure it won't pump up 300 psi, but 200-250 would be nice if if can keep up w/cfm requirements. My 2hp 20 gallon portable can't keep up with my air drill, wonder if the York would? There are replacement air struts. On some strut designs you could just about replace it with a bag, something like Fox Mustangs and late Camaros with a spring under the lower arm instead of up on top of the strut, but spring on top designs have to be replaced.
The only problem I see is I live in Texas and I dont care how hardcore some of you other guys are I like to use my a/c for its intended use. I dont see me running two compressors, so I guess I got to spend the money on the regular electric system. Sucks because I wish I could do it this way.
So run a pulley off of your driveshaft & mount the compressor where no one can see it..... ~ Paul aka "Tha Driver" There is no problem that cannot be solved with the right application of high explosives.
A pully on the driveshaft is ok,as long as your system has no leaks and your car does not lay on the ground.
Im Thinkin Bout Putting a Pressure Relief valve in line so That when it reaches the max PSI..It bleeds out .....Like a Semi......People would Shit if theh Heard the Psssss...Rolling down the road or at An idle.Now i just need to Find a Compressor like yours and Have Fun.
I would like to hear more about the Sanden compressors, if anyone is using them, and how they are set up properly for use on an airbag system. I have a Sanden 508 and a set of bags, gauge, valves, and most of the other shit I'll need to bag a car. I've heard lots of people talk about using the Sanden compressors, but haven't heard any tech on how they are set up to be used on air bag systems. I too want to be a bag-fag, I think I'd be the only one in town.
Here a pictures of the setup. You still need a good mounting bracket. I added a sirpintine to v-belt pulley on the alternator and a idler to keep the belt tight. Came out real well its feeding 15 gallons with no problem. For a fast bag set up that gets alot of use just check the oil, in the compressor it does run hot.
Almost silent,Nothing like the electric buzzers.Mine has had bad rod bearing for 2 years now and it is still way more quiet than an electric.I will NEVER use an electric compressor again!
Something to think about. Yorks are great, til they stop working. Alot of Jeeper use them to fill up their tires and run their lockers, but most have a back up 12v compressor wired up, just incase the york takes a shit. You dont want to be wheeling on the rocks and have your lockers give out cause the york crapped. Yorks also blow alot of oil, even with the oil fix. A good coalescing filter would be a wise investment. Also, mount the filter a ways back from the outlet. They are known to get really hot, and if you skimp on the filter and get a plastic bowl one, the bowl can melt. Just hope, when it fails, that the bags are up so you dont get stranded. With that said, they are cheap and plentiful. Just dont think they are bullet proof.
try looking at onbaordair.com or lowriderimpala.com for application, use, or odds and ends and other ideas.
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