well, below is the set up on my T, which is new fron cross memeber, flattened font spring, and chevy 490 spindles, this achieves a 7" drop from stock
Not upside down - that's an English Drop Frame front axle - I have one on my T. I'm not sure on the spindles. They've a bigger drop than the English spindles I have anyway. I did ask the owner, as it's the only T he owns he hadn't realised they were different. Possibly they're another Laurel speedster part? They didn't look fabricated anyway.
Well - we've moved off topic but here's a pic of the end of my English T axle whilst I was building it, and the diiference in the rear crossmembers,
Hey,don't forget about the "Cook 4 port!" That head ran like stink!!!! Unfortunately, I haven't any pics of them available, but Jim B. may have somewhere in his archives. Alot of racers ran Cook's stuff back in the day infact he did machining for George Riley back in the 30's & Early 40's. They were just a few blocks away from each other. I know several people who own these heads and all seem to be favorable. Several years ago when I became affiliated with Cook's Machine Works as a product spe******t I met a person who is known in the 4 banger world. He said that he was making this head again off of some of Cook's original tooling as well as the pattern work that he did. He wasn't at all happy that Cook's/Cyclone was promoting their wares in the public forum. I had a meeting with him, It went ok, but he called Cook's to confirm the ***ociation. Cook's told him, just as they do others to "Mind their own business" I, for one would love to own that tooling, Maybe someday As this company is my life & I dream of making everything that we made again,that worked
Hi Kevin I realy hope you manage to make this happen. Would be a cool supplement to the variety of available equipment. I would like to know status on your productline etc. Please send me an email if you like or post something about this. Don't want to steel this tread. anitorp@broadpark.no Paul
A guy in Sweden buildt a nice T roadster a while back. Got a roof head on it. There was a feature in Wheels Magazine, (swedish mag) not to long ago. Had some info on various T frontends/spindles. I'll look it up and see if there is anythng to add to the info above. Perhaps any of the Swedish HAMB'ers know of the car/owner. Found some pics of it on the net. Paul
Monkeybiker, Thanks for posting the English axle and crossmember photos, very educational. The axle is easy to pick out from a stock T with that upsweep on the bottom from spring pearch to spindle.
AV8-Rider, Do you know if that T roadster has one of the all STEEL reproduction bodies that are made in Sweden? I know Lang's in M***achusetts used to import them to the US.
Was also a VEY cool old car in Rodders Journal some months ago. Don't remember the issue #. Got a one of a kind homemade head. Very cool story. See also the front axle. Paul
It's so good to see REAL hot rods. These are pure in every sense of the word. I needed this. Thanks, guys.
that thing is loaded with some great early speed parts. It has an early Winfield model V updraft carb. I ran one on my speedster for a while, but it was just so worn out it would never run right. Really cool, and very simple carbs. i swapped it out for a Miller/ Master carb, big burly sob. it really belongs on a car with about 300 cu. displacement, but it is so cool, i dont want to give it up. the quality of the machine work is great too. i like how sneaky the owner of that speedster is, he ran the exhaust back up and over the top of the engine (which is how they were designed, so that the new head would still allow the owner to use his stock exhaust), which is usually done away with, but if you are standing behind the car, and it had its bonnet down, you might think it had a stock motor.
That looks like a B Rajo that the guy either could not get/ or did not want the rocker arms for and converted it to SOHC. (though rajo did make a SOHC conversion at the end of the T production life) The dual down draft Winfield Model "S" on the log is a nice touch. The mags appear to be dual spark mag's made by scintilla/ bendix, they are aircraft mags, but make great car mags. really great post, i will see what i can dig up, when i get back from sunny socal. it is awesome to see all those laurel roof heads, i have only seen on running over here, all the guys like to run Rajo's.
You NEED Rodders Journal #22. Built by R. Hodge, who worked at a foundry, he designed, cast and machined the whole shebang himself. Did a spare head as well... Wills St. Claire crank, variable cam timing (!), Stutz bearcat dizzy's, well I won't ruin it anymore - get the back issue! And I'll keep my eyes peeled for a drop frame axle - hen's teeth and a desirable speedster bit over here, but someone will deal - try neil.tuckett@virgin.net for a start, he brings in most of the T stuff over here. Phil
Guys, that car is owned by Bob Anderson - the guy with the red Model A roadster pick up with the Offy motor in it. That T is one trick car and whilst I had the Rodders Journal book and also an early ninties R&C with the car in it I was very fortunate to have visited Bob and got a real good look at this car.
They are not dual mags, but dual dizzys from a late teens Stutz. Its a Delco product. They're both joined in a large casting with a drive at one end, similar to a side drive drive magneto. An interesting feature was that one of the dizzys ran a couple of degrees behind the other. They had no vacuum or mechcanical advance but were on a hand lever like a stock 'A'.
boy, was i way off. the engine looks just like one guy built over here out of the remains of a rajo...i have no scanner or i would post it. a wills st. claire crank (the engineer behind that car, was henry fords metalurgist) wow...
Here in New Zealand we have a number of guys running OHV Riley heads and one person has bought in a NEW Miller head while another guy has a comprehensive collection that includes a Miller head on a sprinter style engine. Same guy also has a bunch of Riley carbs! I havent met him but saw his stuff in the latest New Zealand Hot Rod Magazine. He also has a ****son head equipped flathead destined for a Deuce roadster.
The guy you want to talk to about four banger conversions is Norm Frick out of Grand Junction, Colorado. He currently make every frigin conversion known to man for you favorite four banger, very nice work .Also Carl Schmid out of Stockton, calif has many, many many orig Banger stuff.I can get you both phone# if you want to pursue them any farther. One other thing as well no better info exists than getting some copys of secrets of speed society mags, go onto like ford barn and advertise for some back issues you won't be sorry they hold a wealth of info on four bangers, and if you get real lucky you might find the old mini mags called four banger and I happen to know a guy up in washington state who has most all the issue for sale a bit spendy but they also loaded with great old time info on four banger raceing. Chris
For you guys new to T speed equipment this is what the Original Laurel B 16 Valve Head exhaust manifold looked like. Two castings that allowed use of the stock exhaust pipe and muffler.
GREAT sugestion! I just finished the other related post and agree that chat should stay over there, this thread is moving along nicely. Started with a '32 Woodie and we're having a great time with T overheads now.
If I did it right, here's a photo of my new toy, the '32 woodie that is destined for changes. Nothing irreversible, but stuff to make it suit my fancy. 16 " radials on KH wires, more HP, maybe an overdrive of some type, lowered a bit, nothing radical at all. Except perhaps the engine.......
NICE woodie dude.....a hopped up banger would be just the ticket for that termite dream. If you ever need some cool as old water transfer surf or travel type decals for the back window of that woodie, I know a fellow who has LOTS. I have a few myself- lemme know. There was a '32 woodie in brizio's shop in South San Fransisco a few months back when I went in there to look around. Very nice- he sadly took the banger out and put some crate ford v8 in it which is cool i guess, but a hopped up banger woulda been better. He had 40 hydraulics on it, a 3" dropped axle and a little kick up in the rear to bring the back down a tad. Looked really cool.
I don't think so, but I'm not sure at all. Have not had the time to dig up the mag yet. Will in a couple of days and see what it says. Paul
Tell me more about those decals. All of my windows except the windshield are clear plastic, as in sidecurtains. I don't know how they'd stick/hold up on that kind of surface.
Agreed, I have the same type in my 34 lumberrod. she'a complete stocker & has the original wood on it. But I do love the surf stickers though.... Kevin
Our Roof "A" (that Bob mentions from Hershey...it's now heading for a museum in Australia.) Another old Roof: Fronty...vroom: I think this is a later RaJo: Another Fronty, this one's an old RPU that looks stock from the outside, ex-Bill Harrah: Someone mentioned full-HALs...ours, now back in Canada: Cris
Cris, that is an awesome collection you have there. I don't know if this has been mentioned but the cheapest OHV conversion would probably be a Chev 4 OHV head. Chev OHV to Model A block Cheers Jimmy
This is an awesome thread..... last year I bought a box full of bits for an A banger, cam counterweights etc... and some half finished patterns for a 2 port head for the A/B/C I was originally told it was copied from a Riley, however it could be a copy of a Jenkins, which was an Aussie F head. There's a fella down in Brisbane Aus, who has a historic race car, running I think a Donavan, he's also got a Cragar and an origainal Miller sitting around. One day I might be able to get my banger going....... Outback
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