Do you need an alignment tool to center the clutch disk to the pilot bearing while tightening up the pressure plate? .
Ron Wico is a tractor mag.... not much compared to Vertex. Plus you NEED to get the car runnin right BEFORE you start further tricks. I know it's easy for me to say it's 80 degrees here ..... I know you been ''Cabin Bound'' for months
You sure have me pegged, Pal. I will take your good advice and get it running right before I try the mag . Thanks Bluto p.s. I was just thinking ...isn't the "B" just a tractor engine ? Ron
Hmmm Ron, you reminded me of a question I wanted to ask after a recent yard crawl- Do the Ford 4 cyl tractor engines (post T) have counterbalanced cranks ???... or it it a whole other beast and not worth messing with?
Hey Mac; don't ask me, I'm new to this farm implement stuff When I started the roadster project, the only fear that I had was that the little car was going to sound like a tractor Ron
Ron, Maybe you should PM 21Stud , back in May 2010 banger thread he posted about one of those tach adapters like Bluto has...he found it at a garage sale.He may still have it!!! Post No 102 here. http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=470853&page=6
Huh , I had to look twice at that........ Archevil , I thought you had been talking to my ex for a few seconds . Finding 21stud's post was a fluke, I was looking for something else in the banger links. It just kinda popped out at me.
I called the manufacturer of this product. He was not very confident it would work since there is minimal pressure. On filling the cracks from the top side, now its been cleaned I visibly can't even see them. What are the odds they WILL leak?
There was a guy making them and advertising in S O S S or FAST, think he was in Oregon. Parts looked as original. One thing, when you time the mag, turn the shaft until the impulse just snaps over, that is the point when the mag is timed.
No, the "B" m4 cylinder was an automotive engine. Ford made a model B tractor with a 2 cylinder opposed engine. Then went to the model F with a 4 cylinder engine
The tractor 4 banger is based on half of the V-8 engine. They were also used in Pick up trucks in the early 40's. I think they are @ 119 cid. .
Just to try to get you guys to try thinking about something other than a Ford. I am once again posting pictures of a superior 1926 Dodge Bros. Installed in a '29 Ford.
What? 3 Dodge Bros. pictures and the thread dies? I didn't mean to insult the Ford guys. I have had a couple of Cragers myself. I like Fords too. Just don't think they are the only Banger.
Rich....That's really funny ! Maybe everyone is at a March Madness sale or something ? Ron (still laughing)
Rich, Don't be discouraged, I love your posts. Just haven't found any common ground yet to have a proper discousion. .
Sorry Rich the whether was too nice to play with the lap top. I was out putting miles on with my 5 year old all day Thursday (just don't tell my boss)
Crazy, thanks for the info on the 9N- I did a little searching and found this: Now, I understand that the tractor engine is a smaller displacement, but do the crankshafts match as far as spacing? If so, I might just be able to find a nice, inexpensive counterbalanced crank for the Chevrolet 4 Rich- the M&B head really looks good! Will get that cam gear out to you over spring break
The 9N mains are 2.25" and the crankpins 2.1 inches so there is plenty of meat to offset grind more stroke into one. Already drilled for pressurised oil too. The crankpin is over 1/2 inch bigger and the stroke is only half an inch longer in the Model A so you would need to offset the pin by .250 to get to stock Model A stroke.
Mac--I hope that you are right, but I have to think that all the years that 8N,9N tractors, and Chev4's were around someone would have done this IF it worked. I'm not a Ford flathead V8 fan, but I'll be willing to guess that their stroke, and also the tractor stroke is less than the Chevy. Herb
Early flat head Ferguson tractor engines were used in midgets. The ferguson tractor overhead engine morphed into the Triumph sports car engine. Not familiar with the use of Ford "N" series tractor engines but anything is possible. "N" series incorporates heavy cast iron oil pan as a frame component
Fergies are differant animals. The N series Ford tractor started with 9N in '39,2N in '42, and 8N in '48, all flatheads. I should have a book with the 8N stroke I'll check into it.
Herb, That's what I was thinking- have a chance at picking one up cheap, cheap... will let you now what I find if I do. Doug, Thanks for offereing the info if you have it!
9N, 2N and 8N all the same 119.7 cubes Bore 3.187, stroke 3.75 . Mains diameter 2.248 to 2.249 crankpin diameter 2.094 In reality I think that by the time you find one , measure and modify it I think you would be close to the price of a ****/Burlington etc or even part way to a custom crank .
97's has the right numbers. Stock hp is 17 at the drawbar, 27 at the beltpulley at 2200max rpms for what that's worth.
Here's some more trivia for you, the Ford 2n and 9 N were known as Ford Ferguson's. In the late 40's Ford changed the name and copied the Ferguson system in the new 8N, Ferguson sued and collected several million dollars in the 50's
Hey do you no what cylinder bore center-center distance these engines have? I guess they have one distance between cylinder 1 and 2 (and 3-4) and a bigger distance between #2 and 3. If anyone knows the width of the mains and crankpins it would be great too. Thanks, Magnus
The Ford N engines have equal spaced bores. The distributor mounted to the front timing cover like a 8ba V8. No space between 2 & 3 needed for the distributor. Because the N tractor engine is just half of the 8ba, the bore spacing should be the same as the V8. .
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