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Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by bbbronc, Sep 10, 2011.

  1. Walle
    Joined: Jul 6, 2007
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    Nice project!

    I bought some original shoebox stuff from Joblot Automotive, queens NY to my shoebox.
    Very good to deal with!

    http://www.joblotauto.com/
     
  2. bbbronc
    Joined: Jan 28, 2011
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    thanks for the link Walle
     
  3. kiwiandy
    Joined: Apr 19, 2005
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    Shoeboxford.com has service second to none. They ship parts to me in NZ and always go the extra mile to assist. If they don't have it, they will tell you straight and not mess you around. Good to see your boy helping on the project! All the best.
    Andy.
     
  4. bbbronc
    Joined: Jan 28, 2011
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    Thanks Andy, I appreciate all the feed back and that's ultimatly how I will choose. I will be spending a lot of money (for me its alot) and positive feedback from people who have used these companies is their best advertising imo.

    btw there is alot of shoeboxes from other countries. I think that is awesome
     
  5. bbbronc
    Joined: Jan 28, 2011
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    Slightly off topic,I just picked this up todaday

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    now given I know nothing about upholstery or sewing, my wife kind of does
    She will be learning and practicing and hopefully be pretty good by te time we're ready. I know this isn't an auto upholstry machine, but, the price was right and it was practicly in our back yard, so we're gonna give it a go :confused:
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    If all else fails she can still use it for her quilting :D
     
  6. Buddy Palumbo
    Joined: Mar 30, 2008
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    Or , while she's practicing , you can get some stuff sewn up that's been torn for a while , lol ! Looks like a good machine to mess around with at the very least .
     
  7. bbbronc
    Joined: Jan 28, 2011
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    lol I have a ton of holey socks. As for the machine I saw the lady that sold it to us sew together leather 3 layers thick. the machines pretty tough
     
  8. bbbronc
    Joined: Jan 28, 2011
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    Back to some on topic stuff


    Removed front suspension and everything bolted to the frame

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    nice little pile of trinkets
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    same in the rear

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    Then tucked back away in its spot
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    But I left this out to play with

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    I usually get wishey washy about this time in a project and this one is no different. While removing the spindle up-rights I started thinking about a pair of dropped units. I have aerostar springs but will it be low enough?
    Also while removing the rear the thoughts of a mav rear entered my mind.
    If I do either of these it will slow the project down financially so I'm kinda leaning tword no. The car will be running a stock to mild flathead and I just don't know if its worth it. As for the uprights are they worth it? This car will be a driver and driven regularly, but not daily. Anyway more to come.
     
  9. Blacklisted
    Joined: May 19, 2011
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    As far as the rearend goes I wanted to know what the weak point of it was and found out that the yolk is the weak point. There are some upgrade yolks that bolt on and you can either use a combination u joint or just have your driveshaft upgraded to use a 1" u joint. I have part numbers if you're interested. I think the yolk is from a Lincoln if I recall right.
     
  10. bbbronc
    Joined: Jan 28, 2011
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    If you have part numbers that would be much appreciated
     
  11. Blacklisted
    Joined: May 19, 2011
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    Here are the part numbers I have. Like I said earlier you can get a "adapter U joint or just have the driveshaft modified.

    Rear yolk: Spicer# 2-4-2611-1x
    Rear Seal: National# 473239 (size 1.875x3x.312)
    Bearing strap: Spicer# 2-70-18x
    U joint: 1”

    link to the yolk
    http://www.northerndrivetrain.com/product/SPI-2-4-2611-1X.html
     
  12. bbbronc
    Joined: Jan 28, 2011
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    Thank you very much Blacklisted
     
  13. Blacklisted
    Joined: May 19, 2011
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    No problem, I haven't done this conversion yet so I can't give you any other details except to look at the link and make sure you get the right U joint. They have links to the compatible joints.
     
  14. bbbronc
    Joined: Jan 28, 2011
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    Spent some time on the sand blaster today. I had forgotten what a piece of crap it is. It's a cheepo gravity feed (real small one) and you spend as much time dicking with it as you do blasting. Anyhow here it is

    rear axle housing
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    backing plate (I did both)
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    leaf spring plates
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    Then I brushed on some por-15
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    On a side note I went to Red's vintage parts yesterday to see if he had any parts for this axle. I met Red Hamilton the owner (Former owner of Red's Headers) turns out he didn't have what I needed but He showed me around his shop and I was in awe of all of his flathead tresures. Super nce guy too.
     
  15. bbbronc
    Joined: Jan 28, 2011
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    Are shoebox axle shafts supposed to be the same on both sides?
    I have one with two holes on the end and one with a plus sign on the end.
    Different years? They appear to be the same length. one has more taper on the end of the splines. Anybody know anything about this?
     
  16. Buddy Palumbo
    Joined: Mar 30, 2008
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    IIRC they're the same length both sides . Maybe someone can confirm my memory ;) .
     
  17. davidvillajr
    Joined: Apr 4, 2005
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    There's nothing in the 1949-50-51 Shop Manual about ANY differences between the axles.

    dv
     
  18. rafael
    Joined: Jun 28, 2007
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    from Moody AFB

    i have a 50 four door this is it installed with front aerostar springs and 3'' in the back. still lays slightly nose high like oem just lower in general. if you can find a way to go lower, i would do it.

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    stock photo (when i got it, saggy leafs/springs :)) to compare to:
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  19. bbbronc
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    I put one next to the other and they appear to be the same legnth

    I could't find anything about it in the manual either, the only difference is the outside ends and a slight difference in taper on the splines

    I'm going to go with this set up for now and possibly do something else (lower) later if need be
     
  20. Finnrodder
    Joined: Oct 18, 2009
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    from Finland

    I've planned same kind of setup,but with dropped uprights+aerostar springs.I guess that'll take the nose down a bit..
     
  21. bbbronc
    Joined: Jan 28, 2011
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    That's what I was wondering about. I don't mind dragging tail. I just don't want to look like I'm driving downhill. Seems droped uprights+ areostar springs with only 3" blocks in back might be too much? Is anyone running this set up?


    Still no answer on the axle shafts. Do you all have matching shaft ends?
     
  22. EBW
    Joined: Oct 16, 2011
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    Great Build, and really good information. Will be watching.
    Subscribed
     
  23. sevenevez
    Joined: Jul 21, 2010
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    from Yuma, AZ

    found you on the shoebox page on facebook. your making good progress. keep in touch
     
  24. bbbronc
    Joined: Jan 28, 2011
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    Well It's been a while and I would like to tell you that I've made alot of progress in the last few months,but that would be a lie. I've been busy or distracted by other things. How ever I managed to get the rear back together and finished painted. It just needs the brakes put on. I have new wheel cyls/shoes thanks to shoeboxford.com.

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    I rented a big sandblaster and went to town on the frame. I must have blown 150 whole walnut shells out from the boxed in frame with the air compressor. Some rodent had a good stash in there.
    It's about 1/2 way done in this pic

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    I brushed on a coat of por-15, and was really happy with the results. It made a nice clean job and no brush marks. I still need to coat the topside of the frame,but I'm strugling with a couple of broken body mount bolts.

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    BTW don't mind the date stamp my battery died and I didn't reset the camera date
    Thats it for now I'll post more as it gets done.
     
  25. bbbronc
    Joined: Jan 28, 2011
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    Made a little more progress over the weekend I got my leaf springs and transmission x-member blasted and cleaned up. I'll post up some pics later, not really much to see. Does any one know of a place where I can get some type of clamps or bands to hold the leafs from spreading apart from each other?
     
  26. Smokey2
    Joined: Jan 11, 2011
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    Great Job ! Kind'a Like The "Helper" part too. U Lucky !

    Does You Plan on Body Mods "down the road ????

    I'ma WATCHING YOU, Keep it Goin, Man. :)

    _________Smoked-up, In tha' Great Smokey Mts. of
    Tennessee _________
     
  27. bbbronc
    Joined: Jan 28, 2011
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    Thanks. Yea, my helper is great. I taught him how to use the sandblaster yesterday. As far as body mods, I don't have anything major planned as of yet, but that may change, I've seen some pretty cool stuff guys have done on here. Rolled rear pan for sure and who knows what else.
    stay tuned
     
  28. daddio211
    Joined: Aug 26, 2008
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    Did you ever sort this out? I'm getting ready to thrash on my '50 Tudor and plan to flip the uprights (per Rocky's method) and run Aerostar coils too. I feel like this is unchartered territory at this point, as I've posted a thread about it and even asked in the shoebox group. Nobody has done this, but the general consensus was "it'll be too low."

    "Too low" in everyone else's book is "just right" in mine. Don't get me wrong, I don't want it 1" from the ground, but 4" would be perfectly acceptable. I'm used to driving low cars and this isn't a problem for me.

    Lemme know what you work out, would ya? You're farther along than me anyway!
     
  29. geemann51
    Joined: Dec 16, 2001
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    It's cool to see that your boy is so into it. Your a very fortunate fella' to have such a side kick and what looks to be a real nice shoe box ford. This will be a fun build to follow...
     
  30. EBW
    Joined: Oct 16, 2011
    Posts: 544

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    I also will be watching.. Aerostar springs are a given.. Flipped uprights I am still in the air about.
     

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