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Technical Best flowing air cleaners for dual carb flathead?

Discussion in 'The Hokey Ass Message Board' started by Busmania, Apr 14, 2024.

  1. Busmania
    Joined: Oct 16, 2022
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    Busmania
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    from Denver

    I was warned about the frog ones but I had them on hand and put them on. I couldn’t even make it around the block before I had to take them off. What do yall recommend? Function is probably more important than looks!
     
  2. G-son
    Joined: Dec 19, 2012
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    from Sweden

    Good air cleaners are generally big air cleaners. The filter needs a lot of surface area to both flow well and clean well.
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  3. Bandit Billy
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    I don't run air filters, just bug screens and scoops on my flathead.
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  4. Busmania
    Joined: Oct 16, 2022
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    Love that one. Thought about making a custom one like that but it’s low on the priority list. I’ll look into that style. Thank you.
     
  5. Busmania
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    I thought about doing that. I am still
    Running the bug screens. Maybe I’ll just remove the “filter” and run like you do.
     
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  6. HEATHEN
    Joined: Nov 22, 2005
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    from SIDNEY, NY

    If you like the looks of small air cleaners, buy a couple K&N filter elements for them. A friend had a '39 Ford coupe with a stock 59A in it, and couldn't figure out why it ran so poorly...it was the cheap clogged Mr. Gasket air filter.
     
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  7. Unkl Ian
    Joined: Mar 29, 2001
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    Unkl Ian

    Size matters.
     
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  8. Hillbilly Werewolf
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    I have a pair of the O'Brian Truckers tall filters for my Plymouth, only running one till i install my dual intake. It is the same diameter as the small ones, but much taller. Under the mesh is a k&n style oiled cloth filter. It seems to flow plenty of air for the RPM my flathead sees, I felt like i could feel a difference over the standard 4" louvered filter that came on the car.
     
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  9. Joe H
    Joined: Feb 10, 2008
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    If you look here, https://wixfilters.com/Lookup/FilterBySize.aspx filters are by size. When you click on a filter you like, most show the cfm of the filter. Figure out how much air you need, then you will know just how big of a filter you must have.
     
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  10. Flatheadjohn47
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    I bought a k & n style air filter for a Porsche that had a 3 barrel Weber on each end of the engine.Bought at a swap meet for $20 and made my own bottom and top to accommodate the Edelbrock slingshot intake with 2—Stromberg 97 carbs that I had jetted UP from stock jets(.045) to .048 and ran h-10 champion plugs that had a nice light tan to light brown finish on the plug centers after running on the street and eventually at the drags. My 32 Henry cabriolet fender less hiboy ran 80 in the 1/8 mile with s—10 5 spd,and 3:89 Detroit locker in a nine in ford rear. I would say the length and tallness of the Porsche k & n filter contributed immensely to the overall performance of the less than 250 in flathead. IMG_2414.jpeg IMG_2278.jpeg IMG_2200.jpeg IMG_1737.jpeg IMG_1736.jpeg IMG_1680.jpeg IMG_1395.jpeg
     
  11. Nice to see another cabriolet - there are not many of us with them!
     
  12. 28rpu
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    My vote for best flowing air filters is K&N. When I built a 327 for my coupe a few years ago I did the calculations for surface area needed for the engine. I found a filter x2 that provided that. I machined the filter housings to fit these filters. I had the engine on the dyno and after the break in and tuning the last pull was with the air filters on. The tq/hp numbers did not change. Sold me. IMG_5214.JPG
     
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  13. banjorear
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    Can you post a pict of your frog scoops? Normally, they have no filter. Curious how it was choking out the motor.
     
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  14. mad mikey
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    K&N, it has been proven time and time again on the dyno. Watch David Vizards video on these filters , he explains how and why they flow so well.
     
  15. flathead 37
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    Our air cleaners that we offer on our website have proven to have excellent flow. We run k&n elements

    Here is a link to the video where I flow test them


    We have them available on nystromperformance.com
    Made here in the USA
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  16. Ziggster
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    Very nice! Crazy how much the mesh in the frog mouth restricts the airflow.
     
  17. Petejoe
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    from Zoar, Ohio

    I’ve had good results when using nylon hose material over the carbs mouth and then place a frogs mouth over it to hold in place. They last a long time.
     
  18. Harv
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    Amen.

    Cheers,
    Harv
     
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  19. 1930ModelA
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    Using Nystromperformance.com air cleaners. IMG_7153.png
     
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  21. 51504bat
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    Always like the looks of these. No idea how well they flow
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  22. caprockfabshop
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    I have the same Grace & Co housings. They ran just fine on my run stand, I haven't tried them under load while driving, but all they have is the wire, so not physically restrictive in appearance. PXL_20221228_225234070.jpg
     
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  23. Ziggster
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    Had to Google Grace & Co. Never have come across their stuff (knowingly at least). Really like the copper plated look.

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  24. caprockfabshop
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  25. This is a setup I'm putting together for my '50 Ford 8BA. Air cleaner dual 94s.JPG twin carbs.JPG
     

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